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[F1]

[More&Faster]

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[F1]

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Is it next year that the new aero rules come in?

[DrDickAction]

Is it next year that the new aero rules come in?

yep, limited aero, slicks & KERS all next year :biggthumb:

[_R_]

McLaren are considering introducing a radical-looking update to their car for the Hungarian Grand Prix after trying out their version of nose horn wings in testing at Jerez on Thursday.

The team are undertaking a big development push of their MP4-23 to maintain the edge they currently appear to have over rivals Ferrari.

And after evaluating a shark fin engine cover in Hockenheim testing, the team surprised observers on the third day of this week's test at Jerez in Spain by unveiling bold-looking nose wings fitted to their car .

The sculpted wings, which rise out of the top sides of the nose on the car, are based on a concept used by BMW Sauber and Honda Racing.

McLaren's F1 CEO Martin Whitmarsh confirmed that the team are thinking about racing with the wings soon - and possibly as early as the Hungarian Grand Prix.

"We've been evaluating a number of different aerodynamic solutions during recent tests, running a dorsal (shark) fin in Hockenheim and trying these refined antler wings at Jerez this week," he told autosport.com.

"At the moment, we are undertaking a very heavy development schedule ahead of the traditional summer break and, while we have yet to confirm plans to run the antler wings in Hungary, they remain an option for both Budapest and the races later this summer."

plus they have the engine cover dorsal fin... so as of now, McLaren has copied....errr...got inspiration from everyone on the grid

[DrDickAction]

plus they have the engine cover dorsal fin... so as of now, McLaren has copied....errr...got inspiration from everyone on the grid

turning into a bit of a tradition.

[Nacho]

turning into a bit of a tradition.

Because no one's using McMerc's bridge nose concept.

[DrDickAction]

Because no one's using McMerc's bridge nose concept.

nobody else has been fined 100 mill for industrial espionage

[mads]

i thought it looked cool on the bmw since its all krazy kooky aero looking, but goddamnit mclaren you fucking faggots. your car already looks like shit with the vodaphone plastered all over it and the bridge.

[mads]

hmm front piece of shit + ferrari speed holes + redbull shark fin = Fernandos .6

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

hmm front piece of shit + ferrari speed holes + redbull shark fin = Fernandos .6

nelson stole fernando's 0.6

[vietlol]

nelson stole fernando's 0.6

borrowed and didnt return before the race

[MrHahn]

nobody else has been fined 100 mill for industrial espionage

[Nacho]

nobody else has been fined 100 mill for industrial espionage

Yea, funny how Renault didn't get anything for that, isn't it?

Or how they determined later that it could have been a vote that was illegal, as per the FIA's own rules.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Just thinking out loud... Everybody in the press is speculating that Santander's sponsorship deal with Ferrari for 2009 and beyond must mean that Alonso is due for a Ferrari seat, but theres another guy who's sponsored by Santander that is looking to get into F1...

[Shi]

Just thinking out loud... Everybody in the press is speculating that Santander's sponsorship deal with Ferrari for 2009 and beyond must mean that Alonso is due for a Ferrari seat, but theres another guy who's sponsored by Santander that is looking to get into F1...

Is that Bruno Senna?

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Is that Bruno Senna?

indeed.

[MrHahn]

indeed.

anything to shift the current sackriding from the black knight...

[Redliner]

Senna and F1 goes together. But he's not ready for a race seat yet...he needs some testing time before he gets a race seat. I mean, he is still pretty green to the racing buisness compared to others.

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Ferrari have become the latest Formula One team to test a shark fin engine cover, with Felipe Massa evaluating the new design on the final afternoon of this week's test at Jerez in Spain.

The Maranello-based team had hoped to try out the extended fin on Thursday, but in the end the team waited until this afternoon so as to conduct back-to-back runs with the old and new design over the course of the day.

Ferrari's move comes just a fortnight after their main title rivals McLaren evaluated a shark fin design during the pre-Hockenheim test.

Although the fins do not create downforce themselves, they do help tidy up airflow to the car's rear wing.

Autosport technical consultant Gary Anderson said: "It's another airflow device. If you imagine the airbox, when you're going at high speed - say over 120mph – it can't take in all the air that is coming at it. So you get spillage around the sides of the engine cover.

"That spillage can affect the rear wing, so you're trying to tidy that up and get it to the rear wing in as uniform condition as possible."

gawd damn it ferrari, i thought you'd be the one team to hold out

[Nacho]

You know, i didn't think about it before, and i'm likely still way off, but the aero regs are for 50% downforce next year, right? 50% of when? Season start or end this year? if it's start, or some time in the past, the theory is worthless, but if it's END then i wonder who will take the hit in Brazil with every bit of aero possible to up their 50% rate.... Even stuff that doesn't really work, but gives a little more downforce stuck on every car on the field would be pretty funny.

[DrDickAction]

Yea, funny how Renault didn't get anything for that, isn't it?

Or how they determined later that it could have been a vote that was illegal, as per the FIA's own rules.

just because another team is cheating doesn't make mcmerc any less of a cheat. We weren't in those FIA hearings, but I don't think there was nearly as much proof in the Renault case..I mean there aren't ongoing criminal investigations in that instance as there are with stepney, so the cases are probably in very different ballparks.

[DrDickAction]

gawd damn it ferrari, i thought you'd be the one team to hold out

[Nacho]

just because another team is cheating doesn't make mcmerc any less of a cheat. We weren't in those FIA hearings, but I don't think there was nearly as much proof in the Renault case..I mean there aren't ongoing criminal investigations in that instance as there are with stepney, so the cases are probably in very different ballparks.

Renault was found guilty of breaking the same rule that McMerc did, and got exactly no punishment.

[DrDickAction]

Renault was found guilty of breaking the same rule that McMerc did, and got exactly no punishment.

Good point. I'm the last person that's gonna pretend that the FIA is a fair, independent, and just body....but I still think mcmerc was guilty of 1st degree cheating, and renault 2nd or 3rd. Karmically, they deserve people stealing their bridgewing before the 100 mill fine.