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[kngrsll]

wow, crazy stuff going down post qualy. Hams in back for gearbox change, weights posted, Toyota DQ'd from quali for flexy rear wing. more drama than a sorority!!

[_R_]

so whats up with that engine tone change?
first i only heard it on the Ferraris, then BMW and BrawnGP...

it sounds like they have an extra gear for a split second...

anyone know?

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

I swear I wasn't

went back to bed instead

but I remember doing that one quali last year, and Massa was on pole

getcha bang on then, damnit!

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

so whats up with that engine tone change?
first i only heard it on the Ferraris, then BMW and BrawnGP...

it sounds like they have an extra gear for a split second...

anyone know?

i've heard it pretty mcuh all around.. maybe just audio feed issues?

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Post-qualifying car weights - Australia

Saturday, March 28th 2009, 11:22 GMT

From the 2009 season, the FIA is making public the weights of the cars, with their fuel load included, following Saturday's qualifying session.

Below is the weight of each car following qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, sorted by grid position.

Spoiler

Pos. Driver Car weight
1. Jenson Button 664.5kg
2. Rubens Barrichello 666.5kg
3. Sebastien Vettel 657kg
4. Robert Kubica 650kg
5. Nico Rosberg 657kg
6. Felipe Massa 654kg
7. Kimi Raikkonen 655.5kg
8. Mark Webber 662kg
9. Nick Heidfeld 691.5kg
10. Fernando Alonso 680.7kg
11. Kazuki Nakajima 685.3kg
12. Heikki Kovalainen 690.6kg
13. Sebastien Buemi 675.5kg
14. Nelson Piquet 694.1kg
15. Giancarlo Fisichella 689kg
16. Adrian Sutil 684.5kg
17. Sebastien Bourdais 662.5kg
18. Lewis Hamilton 655kg
19. Jarno Trulli 660kg
20. Timo Glock 670kg

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/74011

brawn weren't running light either

[_R_]

brawn weren't running light either

i just saw the numbers... i don't want to know them again... don't want to know their pit stop orders
i'm going to skip the numbers on news sites, and if anyone posts it, just going to skip that post...

[_R_]

i've heard it pretty mcuh all around.. maybe just audio feed issues?

too consistent... I always heard it when kimi was in 7th gear...

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

i just saw the numbers... i don't want to know them again... don't want to know their pit stop orders
i'm going to skip the numbers on news sites, and if anyone posts it, just going to skip that post...

posted in spoiler blocking for you from now on.

[kngrsll]

so whats up with that engine tone change?
first i only heard it on the Ferraris, then BMW and BrawnGP...

it sounds like they have an extra gear for a split second...

anyone know?

i keep hearing that too, i dunno? BBC and Speed commentators each mention it once and just brush it off.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/74019

so williams withdraws a protest against RBR and ferrari based on how williams "recognises the possibility that in this area there could be more than one interpretation of the rules and therefore does not feel it appropriate to continue with the protests."

translation: "we're withdrawing the protest because our cars are gaining an advantage over interpretation of the rules and therefore does not feel it appropriate to call the kettle black."

basically they're asking anyone else that is behind both teams and isn't running the big diffuser to bring the issue back up.

[_R_]

posted in spoiler blocking for you from now on.

i keep hearing that too, i dunno? BBC and Speed commentators each mention it once and just brush it off.

yeah, Hobbs brought it up, but no one said anything...

[RedVVing19]

I guess Vettel isnt all that light and could legitimately get on the podium

[psykosis]

well goddamn this looks to be an interesting season.

The itty bitty rear wings look odd. I just can't get used to them.

[Shi]

getcha bang on then, damnit!

[_R_]

what i'm thinking, is that these smaller teams better get a huge jump start in the beginning of the season, cause when ferrari, bmw, etc. have their rear diffuser developed, they are going to start chewing into that lead...

[kngrsll]

I guess Vettel isnt all that light and could legitimately get on the podium

The kid is good, the RBR isnt bad, but apparently fragile (again)

The itty bitty rear wings look odd. I just can't get used to them.

Its not the rear wing that bugs me, but rather the width of the front wing that gets me.

what i'm thinking, is that these smaller teams better get a huge jump start in the beginning of the season, cause when ferrari, bmw, etc. have their rear diffuser developed, they are going to start chewing into that lead...

DOT. By mid season, the money teams will be winning races again... Ferrari for sure, they arent that bad off, perhaps BMW as well. It looks as if RBR could develop pretty well too... Like i have heard before, the biggest thing is a really solid base, so maybe the amount of money thrown at it may not help as much as we think. I will sure as hell enjoy finding out


God it feels really good to be this excited about F1!! The last seasons have been great, but this, wow, even better!

[TimzSI]

first impressions. Brawn car looks mega cool in the light. I've never used mega in a sentence before. The Red Bull is the fastest nondiffuser car. And it looks Very Leyton-House with that high nose and, well, adrian newey. Looks like the Concorde.

Brawn seems to be that transformed, skunk works team style. USF1 should take note, Brawn is giving a masterclass in how-to carry on as a new team.

Could that engine change note be some near seemless shift gearbox feature in action?

[kngrsll]

Brawn seems to be that transformed, skunk works team style. USF1 should take note, Brawn is giving a masterclass in how-to carry on as a new team.

i dunno if that is fair to say considering they picked up on a year of Honda's work...

[Skyliner]

[Skyliner]

Well, I'm waiting for more "Toyota cheating" posts, even though certain other teams had flexi-wings not long ago.

[_R_]

Well, I'm waiting for more "Toyota cheating" posts, even though certain other teams had flexi-wings not long ago.

you're only cheating if you get caught

[Skyliner]

you're only cheating if you get caught

In this case, you're only cheating if the stewards actually penalize you.

[Skyliner]

Here’s how the race will unfold
March 28, 2009 by James Allen
The fuel weights have been published by the FIA for the first time, under the new rules for this season.

There are some very interesting things here. For a start the Brawn cars are, as we expected, massively quick, given that Jenson Button’s car has 22 laps worth of fuel in it (59 kilos). Barrichello will go one lap longer, to 23. This is a long first stint for a two stop strategy.

Knowing this we can say that Jenson did a stunning job today in the final part of qualifying as the extra fuel he’s carrying will have given him less than a tenth of a second of lap time compared to Rubens and yet he is three tenths faster.

Rubens liked the car more on low fuel in the early part of qualifying, Jenson liked it more in heavy fuel mode. He will be on his own tomorrow in the race.

Sebastien Vettel, who qualified third, will go to lap 20, the same as Nico Rosberg. This means that the Red Bull is a couple of tenths faster than the Williams.

Meanwhile the Ferraris are in trouble, Massa has only 18 laps of fuel in his car and yet he was 8/10ths off Button, who has 3/10ths of a weight disadvantage. That puts the Ferrari a second slower in quali trim today. Raikkonen has a similar amount as his team mate and was a tenth slower.

Kubica’s lap looks less stellar when you realise that he is running light - he will be stopping on lap 17.

Button should control the race, reliability is his only competitor tomorrow. Barrichello has more than enough speed to stay ahead of Vettel and Rosberg who will be fighting for a podium. Massa moves forward to 6th on the grid after Glock’s exclusion and he has a shot at a podium from there to get his championship campaign off to a strong start. The Ferrari should prove a faster race car than qualifier here.

UPDATES: I’ll be doing a Twitter feed during the race, with my take on what’s going on. Look out for it here on “JAonF1″

Sourece: James Allen's blog

[yonson]

interesting!

[kngrsll]

interesting!

how about no? fucking gay... i dont like it. takes away one of the best elements of the race since there is minimal passing. we find out tomorrow if THAT aspect is improved like its supposed to be.

what they should do all 3 sessions on low fuel (or do each car, 1 lap a piece like the pre 3 session days, makes for a good show, and you get to watch each drives full quali lap) and fast like proper quali, then fill them all full of fuel till the end. but maybe it'll turn out to rock out, who knows...