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[DrDickAction]

Former NFL players tend to be FAR worse off financially than former f1 drivers though. Really kinda sad how the sport chews people up and spits them out with no safety net/guaranteed contracts.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Different forms of wear and tear. Much more frequent concussions, sprains, torn ligaments, occasional breaks. Far less shattered femurs and decapitations in American Football though.

That's a "devastating hit"

[Redliner]

A big difference is diet. Guys in the NFL, even the "small" ones eat ridiculous amounts of food. Upwards of 10-15000 calories during training camp. Once they retire, it's tough to scale back down to their level of (in)activity.

That's probably really it, and plus they are geared for short acceleration bursts & maximum strength. Yeah, they are built like Mac trucks and will kill a F1 driver if you had them go one on one in a fight. But in the long-run, they are less healthy and more freakish in nature...they are a bit abnormal if you think about it.

[chiuey]

A big difference is diet. Guys in the NFL, even the "small" ones eat ridiculous amounts of food. Upwards of 10-15000 calories during training camp. Once they retire, it's tough to scale back down to their level of (in)activity.

Never mind pro athletes, I use to swim a km a day before I started working. 7 yrs later, I don't nearly exercise half as much as i use to, and I'm still having trouble cutting down my food consumption.

[chiuey]

Former NFL players tend to be FAR worse off financially than former f1 drivers though. Really kinda sad how the sport chews people up and spits them out with no safety net/guaranteed contracts.

There should be a class in college on how to survive post pro careers, but then again pro athletes are the modern day gladiator who are only worth as much to their masters as when they are able. Once you're done, no one really gives a shit about you.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

There should be a class in college on how to survive post pro careers, but then again pro athletes are the modern day gladiator who are only worth as much to their masters as when they are able. Once you're done, no one really gives a shit about you.

Theres always ESPN...

[chiuey]

Theres always ESPN...

I feel that those position are mostly reserved for retired QBs and Coaches who have a better understand of the strategies in the game. You dont see many retired OL, DL or LBs on TV. Tedy Bruschi is the only I can think of, off the top of my head that got a TV gig.

[kngrsll]

There should be a class in college on how to survive post pro careers, but then again pro athletes are the modern day gladiator who are only worth as much to their masters as when they are able. Once you're done, no one really gives a shit about you.

I think the biggest disappointment in my education was the total lack of financial training. My parents are blue collar and have always just gotten by, so they havent been in the best position to teach me. Most of the kids at my school were the first generation to attend college in their families. In high school and college, not one mandatory class on personal finance. I had to ask or teach myself what APR is, why credit is important, why debt is bad, how to invest when you do make money, so on. I knew nothing... I would have spent SO MUCH less loan money than i did. Luckily, i was not one of the kids to bury myself in credit card debt as well. There really should be a mandatory freshman class on basic personal finance.

so the link to the NFL topic is the same, most of these athletes are their families first generation to come into serious money

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

I feel that those position are mostly reserved for retired QBs and Coaches who have a better understand of the strategies in the game. You dont see many retired OL, DL or LBs on TV. Tedy Bruschi is the only I can think of, off the top of my head that got a TV gig.

Mike Golic, DT
Paul Maguire, P/LB
Michael Strahan, DE
Frank Gifford, WR
Alex Karras, DT
O.J. Simpson, RB
Dan Dierdorf, OT

[Redliner]

Mike Golic, DT
Paul Maguire, P/LB
Michael Strahan, DE
Frank Gifford, WR
Alex Karras, DT
O.J. Simpson, RB
Dan Dierdorf, OT

Point is however, the entire retired football league can't get TV gigs...

I think football is one of the worse sports after playing the game. Terrible health conditions, multiple hits, possible brain damage and no financial training whatsoever.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Point is however, the entire retired football league can't get TV gigs...

I think football is one of the worse sports after playing the game. Terrible health conditions, multiple hits, possible brain damage and no financial training whatsoever.

Rugby has all of that sans the money to begin with.

[DrDickAction]

Point is however, the entire retired football league can't get TV gigs...

I think football is one of the worse sports after playing the game. Terrible health conditions, multiple hits, possible brain damage and no financial training whatsoever.

not to mention relatively shit money...and even with a shitty contract, you're still one torn ligament away from your contract being null & void. A 2 sport athlete would be foolish to choose the NFL over the other sport.

Supply and demand really...1,696 NFL players, 750 MLB players, 360-450 NBA players.

We shouldn't feel bad for them imho...how many of us had the opportunity to get a free college education? If they lack the fore-site to take advantage of the unusually awesome opportunities life has presented them, how is that not the player's fault?

[DrDickAction]

[kngrsll]

not to mention relatively shit money...and even with a shitty contract, you're still one torn ligament away from your contract being null & void. A 2 sport athlete would be foolish to choose the NFL over the other sport.

Supply and demand really...1,696 NFL players, 750 MLB players, 360-450 NBA players.

We shouldn't feel bad for them imho...how many of us had the opportunity to get a free college education? If they lack the fore-site to take advantage of the unusually awesome opportunities life has presented them, how is that not the player's fault?

reminds me of a book, the one about the guy who goes to live with the gang members in chicago. the average chance of dying was HUGE like 20%/yr at the peak of crack, the average foot solider made less than minimum wage, and yet there was always someone else willing to get his spot in the gang. The perceived payout was so big (ie ballin' gansta) that they felt like the risk was worth it when really a minimum wage job at mcdonalds was much more beneficial on paper.

Book is Gang Member for a Day

http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/1594201501

[chiuey]

Mike Golic, DT
Paul Maguire, P/LB
Michael Strahan, DE
Frank Gifford, WR
Alex Karras, DT
O.J. Simpson, RB
Dan Dierdorf, OT

Of all those guys I only recognize 3 names and didn't know any of them had TV gigs. I didn't even know OJ got a TV gig, thought he only got into movies.

but that being said, I think it's taken out of context. if you compare that to the number of QBs and Coaches that ended up on TV, what would the numbers look like? The percentages just are not in favor on personnel who are not QBs or coaches.

[DrDickAction]

Of all those guys I only recognize 3 names and didn't know any of them had TV gigs. I didn't even know OJ got a TV gig, thought he only got into movies.

but that being said, I think it's taken out of context. if you compare that to the number of QBs and Coaches that ended up on TV, what would the numbers look like? The percentages just are not in favor on personnel who are not QBs or coaches.

I think this was more true when we were kids...

Howie Long
Michael Irvin
Deon Sanders
Daryl Johnston

Yeah, you still have the Steve Youngs and Terry Bradshaws, but more positions are represented now adays.

[DrDickAction]

And you can be black now too

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Hulkenburg -> FI Reserve Driver. Di Resta confirmed as #2 to Sutil.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Test day 1:

Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault* 1m13.769s 93
2. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m13.938s + 0.169s 71
3. Gary Paffett McLaren-Mercedes 1m14.292s + 0.523s 91
4. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m14.461s + 0.692s 28
5. Fernando Alonso Ferrari* 1m14.553s + 0.784s 97
6. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari* 1m15.621s + 1.852s 68
7. Jerome D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1m16.003s + 2.234s 71
8. Vitaly Petrov Renault* 1m16.351s + 2.582s 28
9. Michael Schumacher Mercedes* 1m16.450s + 2.681s 15
10. Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari* 1m17.214s + 3.445s 19
11. Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth* 1m17.335s + 3.566s 77
12. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m18.020s + 4.251s 45
13. Nico Rosberg Mercedes* 1m19.930s + 6.161s 9

All timing unofficial
* 2011 car

[vietlol]

Told you the merc will be crap

[DrDickAction]

Told you the merc will be crap

Merc is actually the 4th fastest '11 car on day 2.

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Alonso Ferrari 1m13.307s 108
2. Vettel Red Bull Renault 1m13.614s +0.307 43
3. Di Resta Force India Mercedes 1m13.844s +0.537 111 *
4. Hamilton McLaren Mercedes 1m14.353s +1.046 83 *
5. Kubica Renault 1m14.412s +1.105 104
6. Karthikeyan HRT Cosworth 1m14.472s +1.165 80 *
7. Rosberg Mercedes 1m14.645s +1.338 69
8. Glock Virgin Cosworth 1m15.408s +2.101 34 *
9. Barrichello Williams Cosworth 1m16.023s +2.716 51
10. Perez Sauber Ferrari 1m16.198s +2.891 42
11. Maldonado Williams Cosworth 1m16.266s +2.959 29
12. Buemi Toro Rosso Ferrari 1m16.359s +3.052 46
13. Alguersuari Toro Rosso Ferrari 1m16.474s +3.167 64
14. Webber Red Bull Renault 1m17.365s +4.058 17
15. Kovalainen Lotus Renault 1m20.649s +7.342 15

* 2010 car

[_R_]

Merc is actually the 4th fastest '11 car on day 2.

That's what their PR people have to say

[vietlol]

Merc is actually the 4th fastest '11 car on day 2.

There's something to be proud of

[_R_]

There's something to be proud of

don't forget that the 2010 HRT is now faster than the 2011 Merc
in Karthikeyan's hands no less

[DrDickAction]

I'll bet $1000.00 U.S. that the merc is quicker than the HRT by bahrain. Any takers?