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[DrDickAction]

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The Glen Beck of racing

Riveting, but not in a good way

[MrHahn]

going back to my complaint about the "race" up front that everyone loved this weekend...
so on the Mclaren side they were basically expected to hold station, and on the Red Bull side it was pretty much the same thing...
so like i said before, if it wasn't for the crash, this was a nothing of a race...

Red Bull might have imploded at Turkey, all they need to do to Mclaren is push back and watch them fall apart quicker. Hamilton has the temper of a 10 year old

[vietlol]

the race wasn't bad, I think the top4 running so close for so long was pretty tense

but then you had a train of cars starting with schumacher that just never changed position for a thousand laps except alonso at the end

[DrDickAction]

Red Bull might have imploded at Turkey, all they need to do to Mclaren is push back and watch them fall apart quicker. Hamilton has the temper of a 10 year old

Let's all hope this was a one off.

[_R_]

Mark had requested the lap before to ask Sebastian to back off a bit.

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/84093

Lewis Hamilton: If I back off is Jenson going to pass me or not?

http://www.f1fanatic...ish-grand-prix/

this is what annoys me a shit ton....

1) this is a question that should never be asked
2) if it is asked, the answer should always be "yes your teammate will pass you"

this is racing, not a fucking procession around a track... if the lack of passing wasn't already a complaint about F1, teammates asking for teammates not to pass is re-fucking-diculous...

[Redliner]

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/84093


http://www.f1fanatic...ish-grand-prix/

this is what annoys me a shit ton....

1) this is a question that should never be asked
2) if it is asked, the answer should always be "yes your teammate will pass you"

this is racing, not a fucking procession around a track... if the lack of passing wasn't already a complaint about F1, teammates asking for teammates not to pass is re-fucking-diculous...

What's it matter though? Actions are louder than words. Both leading team-mates asked the questions, and we saw the results of what happend to both team-mates. Webber got punted and Vettel lost out while Button passed Lewis for the lead and Lewis had to fight back. Asking is one thing, but what happened on track told the full story - they're racers, and they're going to race to the bitter end.

[Nacho]

Lewis actually complemented Button's move in the post-race conference.

The Race Edit over at F1.com is pretty awesome, BTW.

[Redliner]

Lewis actually complemented Button's move in the post-race conference.

The Race Edit over at F1.com is pretty awesome, BTW.

That was a pretty cool edit - listening to the radio transmissions brings a whole new dimension to how it all played out...

[vietlol]

Webbo gets extension

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/84204

[cASe SenSiTive]

Webbo gets extension

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/84204

Makes sense. Despite any team squabbles, it's still a great seat to be in.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Makes sense. Despite any team squabbles, it's still a great seat to be in.

Also hard for RB to sack the championship leader who seems happy to stay put.

[Shi]

Massa signed up at Ferrari till end of 2012

[vietlol]

Surprised he got a 2 year extension but not surprised to see him driving for Ferrari next year.

[DrDickAction]

Massa signed up at Ferrari till end of 2012

That's kind if shocking.

[Shi]

Massa's doing a good job

Behind on points, but 4-3 up on Alonso on a race to race basis

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Massa's doing a good job

Behind on points, but 4-3 up on Alonso on a race to race basis

The question comes down to who else is
a) Available

b) Better

c) Can work alongside Fred


It then comes down to Kubica or Massa. Now Kubica is a good driver, but Massa isn't exactly a slouch either. He only missed the WDC by 1 point by circumstances completely out of his control (pit error in Singapore, Timo Glock , etc).

[Nacho]

The question comes down to who else is
a) Available

b) Better

c) Can work alongside Fred


It then comes down to Kubica or Massa. Now Kubica is a good driver, but Massa isn't exactly a slouch either. He only missed the WDC by 1 point by circumstances completely out of his control (pit error in Singapore, Timo Glock , etc).

being handed points (spa)

[AErrorist]

being handed points (spa)

you could argue though that they weren't just handing Massa points so much as Ferrari, even though they counted for him too.

[_R_]

That's kind if shocking.

he's at ~45% podium to race start ratio while at Ferrari...
he can collect points consistently for the most part...

[vietlol]

Massa's doing a good job

Behind on points, but 4-3 up on Alonso on a race to race basis

Yeah but most of that is down to circumstance. He's looked very slow this season compared to Alonso overall. Even I expected him to be faster.

I agree that he can do a good job for the wcc though.

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Formula 1 fans will have to wait until 2012 for the championship to be broadcast in High Definition, the sport's commercial boss Bernie Ecclestone has predicted, despite increasing calls for the switch.

The recent Formula 1 fan survey showed that a majority of fans were keen for F1 to be broadcast in HD - but leading figures from the sport have told AUTOSPORT that there are still big hurdles to be faced before coverage can step up from standard definition.

While Ecclestone says camera technology is now ready for his F1 production coverage to be done fully in HD, he thinks there still needs to be more fans at home able to watch it in HD, plus enough broadcasters ready to distribute it, before the move can be made. That is why he thinks it may well take until 2012 for the circumstances to be right for F1 to switch to HD coverage.

"We don't want to broadcast unless people want it," Ecclestone told AUTOSPORT. "I asked in England, the BBC, about it - how many people can receive it? They said about 20 per cent of the viewers who watch F1.

"Then I want to make sure that what we produce is top quality. Before we start seeing the top-top quality that we want, I would say it will probably be 2012 before we can guarantee it."

Ecclestone says the onus is on the broadcasters to have both the desire to have HD coverage, and be sure that there are enough viewers able to watch it at home to make it worth it.

"I said to the broadcasters, are you going to get more viewers, will more people watch F1 because it is HD or will less people watch it because it isn't? They really need to have a check and see who has got the right televisions.

"I don't think the average public realise that it is not the television, they have to have something to receive it as well. It is like producing a colour signal when people only have black-and-white sets."

Ecclestone has been working in unison with F1 sponsors LG on evaluating HD coverage of F1, and the electronics giant also thinks that there is still another 18 months before the sport can make the switch.

Andrew Barratt, LG's vice president of marketing and global sponsorship, said that evidence of how the technology still needs improving came in Monaco last year when HD cameras trialled there could not cope with the vibrations encountered in trying to film cars through the tunnel, as the recording discs kept skipping frames.

"F1 is probably the most technologically complex sport in the world to shoot," Barratt told AUTOSPORT. "The environments in which they are shooting make it very complex and very difficult.

"It is not an easy thing to do and perfecting it takes time. We've learned with F1 is that the same cameras that shoot all the other sports in the world get under stress in environments like the Monaco tunnel. It takes a long time to get it right.

"You also have to have figured out every single camera. If it is in HD for a while and then you cut to a car and it is not HD it will be a real let down for the viewer. Technologically it is really hard and people don't appreciate how difficult it is. They will figure it out and when they do they will bring it to our house."

Barratt also echoes Ecclestone's view that the main stumbling block is actually whether consumers are ready in big enough numbers to make the HD move economically viable.

"There is an economic model that is required to get it from the track to our house, and all of us have a stake," he said. "It is really easy to say, I would like to have it at home in HD but it is going to cost far more – it is going to cost the broadcaster more and it is going to cost the consumer more.

"When all three of us are ready to get together, then I think it will happen. It is one thing saying you want, but another taking your share of the responsibility to bring it. When we see more people take up HD at home as a basic service, that will be the tipping point. It is on all of us to make it happen – but when it does it will be awesome."

He added: "Bernie said to me the day I met him: 'The day the consumer is truly ready – not saying he is ready – but truly ready, meaning he will pay for it and the broadcasters are ready, I am ready. But I am not going to send down a signal that nobody can digest, because that is just silly.'"

Experiments have taken place at this weekend's Canadian Grand Prix with new 3D cameras – both taking on-track and on-board footage. But although that prompted speculation that F1 could go straight from standard definition from 3D, the technology is still too early in its development phase to even be considered for F1.

"So many people are saying the future is 3D," said Ecclestone. "It is not 3D at all. It is one-and-a-half D."

*sigh*

[MrHahn]

*sigh*

The pinnacle of motorsport!

[yonson]

FUCK YOU BERNIE, fuck he needs to hurry up and die already...

[Nacho]

FUCK YOU BERNIE, fuck he needs to hurry up and die already...

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of 3D.

HD though, is pretty mandatory. Fucker.

[yonson]

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of 3D.

HD though, is pretty mandatory. Fucker.

I was meaning to the HD part I don't care about 3d either