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and another...

MSC Organization Ltd, the company that owns the N.Technology racing team and the International Formula Master championship, has submitted an application to join the 2010 Formula 1 World Championship.

The entry has been requested under the N.Technology banner, the team that ran the works Alfa Romeos three consecutive European Touring Car titles from 2001-03 and, more recently, finished third in the WTCC standings in three successive seasons from 2005-07.

The organisation also created the Formula Master series, which has supported the WTCC since 2007.

The team's personnel includes Eurosport CEO Angelo Codignoni, N.Technology team founders Mauro Sipsz and Monica Bregoli, technical director Andrea Adamo and former Trident Racing managing director Alessandro Alunni Bravi.

N.Technology joins Prodrive, Lola, USF1, Team Superfund, Epsilon-Euskadi, Campos Meta 1 and Litespeed on the list of new teams to have confirmed their applications for a place in Formula 1 next year.

The team already has deals in place with potential partners should its application be successful, but no announcements will be made before the list of entrants is confirmed on June 12.

[Robert]

I (almost) wish a couple of NASCAR teams would buy into this so it would be very clear where it's headed.

[mads]

I (almost) wish a couple of NASCAR teams would buy into this so it would be very clear where it's headed.

ibmontoyawithganassi

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

and another...

yeah i just don't even care anymore about all these 'new teams'.. its really starting to become a joke, suddenly everyone and their grandmother is capable of running their own f1 teams.

[yonson]

I especially wish Penske would, since my cousin works there and all

[chiuey]

Start your own series, Mosley tells teams

By Jonathan Noble Thursday, June 4th 2009, 08:29 GMT

Max Mosley Monaco 2009FIA president Max Mosley has indicated that the governing body is not about to bow to demands being placed on it by Formula 1's current teams about their entry to the 2010 championship.

Nine of the sport's current competitors submitted their entries to next year's championship on the condition that a new Concorde Agreement was signed by June 12 and that next year's cost-cutting rule changes are abandoned in favour of their preferred regulations.

However, speaking to Swiss publication Motorsport Aktuell, Mosley has made it clear that it is unlikely a Concorde Agreement can be put together in such a short time frame - and he has suggested the rebel teams go off and set up their own championship if they are unhappy.

"A Concorde Agreement which one receives so late can't be signed by June 12," Mosley was quoted as saying.

"We now have a conflict and we will see who succeeds in the end. I say to them: If you want to draw up your own rules, then you can organise your own championship. But we have the Formula 1 championship.

"We draw up the rules for that. We have been doing that for 60 years and we will continue doing so."

With a whole host of new teams having submitted entries to next year's championship, there are no shortage of competitors who can fill the grid if current teams do not wish to compete.

Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali said last week that if the conditions laid down by FOTA's nine members were not accepted, then their entries would be invalid.

ibmadmaxonarampagefollowedbybreakawayseries

[tefnut]

ALL THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY





also, I just got Ferrari's evil plan check it:
- they convince all of their current competitors to put in conditional entries for next year
- but those conditional entires will be rejected as invalid
- so all of Ferrari's real competitors kicked out of F1
- but because of that special FIA-Ferrari agreement Ferrari's entry is still valid
- so only Ferrari remains as the experienced team, competes next year with a bunch of noobs
- Ferrari wins both championships in 2010

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU...

[Robert]

ALL THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY





also, I just got Ferrari's evil plan check it:
- they convince all of their current competitors to put in conditional entries for next year
- but those conditional entires will be rejected as invalid
- so all of Ferrari's real competitors kicked out of F1
- but because of that special FIA-Ferrari agreement Ferrari's entry is still valid
- so only Ferrari remains as the experienced team, competes next year with a bunch of noobs
- Ferrari wins both championships in 2010

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU...

Only 1 problem with that.






*imperial march soundtrack*

ROSS BRAWN

[MrHahn]

ALL THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY





also, I just got Ferrari's evil plan check it:
- they convince all of their current competitors to put in conditional entries for next year
- but those conditional entires will be rejected as invalid
- so all of Ferrari's real competitors kicked out of F1
- but because of that special FIA-Ferrari agreement Ferrari's entry is still valid
- so only Ferrari remains as the experienced team, competes next year with a bunch of noobs
- Ferrari wins both championships in 2010

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU...

wat

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i hope the 9 teams don't join F1 next season...
all these little teams and max's ego need to get fucked over...
F1 as it's lining up to be next season is a joke...

[Redliner]

What a fucking cluster.

Goddamn Mosely. How come there isn't a check and balances on this fucker? Fucking douche bag to the nth degree...I hope he is found dead in the most homosexual of acts as possible to disgrace his reputation for the history books.



F1 is really entering some dark times now. Wasn't the FIA split up from the original FISA under the same guise in the early 80s? It's time for this to happen again. FIA is beyond mad.

[Redliner]

So...what happens to driver contracts if their teams they are contracted to are no longer driving in F1?

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

So...what happens to driver contracts if their teams they are contracted to are no longer driving in F1?

paid vacation

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Mario Theissen on Thursday said the F1 crisis remains ‘critical’, but another interesting detail emerged during his meeting with the press at Istanbul Park.

While the Formula One Teams' Association members insist they will not accept the announced 2010 rules, and Max Mosley insists the FIA must write the regulations, BMW chief Theissen was asked about the 'conditional entries' lodged by the deadline last Friday.

"The term 'conditional entry' came from Mosley," the German is quoted as saying by the SID news agency.

It is suggested that, at the Monaco meeting nearly two weeks ago, the FIA President advised FOTA to lodge the entries attached to their conditions for competing next year.

It had previously been presumed that the conditional status of the entries would render them invalid in the eyes of the FIA, and that the June 12 entry list will therefore omit the nine teams involved.

But in light of Theissen's revelation, it is now less likely that the entries will be dismissed by Mosley, because if that was to be the case, he would have simply allowed FOTA to miss the May 29th deadline altogether.

However, since FOTA demanded that their entries be treated as a whole and not on a case-by-case basis, Mosley would theoretically have no choice but to reject the nine member teams if negotiations fail.

If that should happen, therefore, teams wishing to prevent their participation in the 2010 season from being discarded would then have to follow Williams' example and leave FOTA in order to resubmit their forms under whatever rules are in place before being considered by the FIA.

What could be developing behind the scenes is a delicate exercise in devising a solution that leaves no egg on the faces of the various egos involved.

So while the hard-liners like Ferrari and Toyota insist a budget cap will never be accepted, Theissen on Thursday was keen to play down reports that a breakaway championship is increasingly looking likely.

"All I can say is that we want to come to a solution with the FIA. We are open and ready to talk," he claimed.

No significant meetings are currently planned for this weekend.

Mosley was setting them up to have none legal entry applications either for the teams to not make the cut or to charge them later with a late entry application free

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Mosley was setting them up to have none legal entry applications either for the teams to not make the cut or to charge them later with a late entry application free

Damn mad max and his games...

I really don't care if any of these 9 new teams make the cut or not, but if the manufacturers are out then F1 is pointless IMO.

[Skyliner]

Max Mosley is wrong. The only split F1 needs is a break away from him

[Dazed1]

Damn mad max and his games...

I really don't care if any of these 9 new teams make the cut or not, but if the manufacturers are out then F1 is pointless IMO.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Max Mosley is wrong. The only split F1 needs is a break away from him

Indycar never recovered from the Champ car/IRL split. Mad max needs to take a lesson from history.


On a side note, interesting stuff:
http://www.bridgesto...y/formula1.html

[Robert]

On SPEED they said Force India has followed Williams and broken ranks with FOTA.

[More&Faster]

On SPEED they said Force India has followed Williams and broken ranks with FOTA.

this is getting interesting. come on brawn

[Redliner]

this is getting interesting. come on brawn

come on Brawn what? What does breaking ranks w/ the FOTA and going to FarceOne next year prove? That the Mad Max show is right?

[_R_]

On SPEED they said Force India has followed Williams and broken ranks with FOTA.

this is getting interesting. come on brawn

come on Brawn what? What does breaking ranks w/ the FOTA and going to FarceOne next year prove? That the Mad Max show is right?

Force India has become the second team to break away from the hardline stance of the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) and lodge an unconditional entry for next year's championship, the team confirmed on Friday.

Following a day of speculation about whether Force India would stand firm in its alliance with FOTA's conditional block-entry to next year's championship, the outfit announced in Turkey that it had been forced because of 'commercial obligations' to go it alone and review its conditional application.

Although the decision means that eight current teams are holding out on entering F1 only if they are happy with the regulations, and a new Concorde Agreement is in place, Force India insisted that its decision was not a snub at FOTA.

A team statement said: "While the Force India team is broadly in agreement with the FOTA objectives, commercial obligations have demanded that Force India review its conditional entry jointly submitted by FOTA on deadline day.

"This has been done today with full transparency between all parties. The details of the team's position will be discussed between Dr. Vijay Mallya and FOTA vice-chairman John Howett tomorrow. No further comment will be made until those discussions have taken place."

The decision by Williams and Force India means that those teams could be the only current outfits that are granted an entry to the 2010 championship when the decision is made next week by the FIA about which teams to accept.

FOTA's remaining members have said that they will remain united in their decision about plans for 2010 - meaning that either all of them or none of them will enter next year.

Toyota F1 president John Howett, who is vice-chairman of FOTA, said on Friday that Force India would now probably join Williams in being suspended from the teams' organization.

"It is likely they may be suspended," explained Howett. "I haven't really had the opportunity to speak to Vijay directly, but he has committed in accordance with FOTA a conditional entry and apparently, due to commercial issues, totally unrelated to another team or support, they felt obliged because of other binding legal activities due to funding or other issues, they needed to submit an official entry.

"He will be here tomorrow and I will speak to him, and I have to say it is the intention of FOTA to suspend them based on a face-to-face discussion with Vijay. But he has confirmed to me through Bob Fearnley that he is totally supportive and committed to FOTA."

None of this is helping... but as expected, Williams, Force India and possibly Brawn next will submit an official entry. Like I said a couple pages back, if they're aren't in F1 they have no business (although Williams supplies Formula 2 cars)...

I understand their reasoning, but this doesn't help the FOTA and whatever opinion/authority they have...

[Robert]

come on Brawn what? What does breaking ranks w/ the FOTA and going to FarceOne next year prove? That the Mad Max show is right?

Anyone want to guess what F1 attendance will look like if the constructors drop out?

[Robert]

I just noticed those horrible dumbo ears/wing/flap/things on the front of the Honder in the photo. Jeezuz what a failmobile that was. And it was green too!

[Robert]

Button deserves the WDC this year just for having to drive that turd all year with a smile on his face.