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[Redliner]

When you live in hell nothing on this green Earth makes you sweat.

Kero w/ the dramatic 300 quote outta nowhere

[cafcwest]

FIA announces 2010 F1 entry list

By Jonathan Noble Friday, June 12th 2009, 09:51 GMT


World championship leaders Brawn, plus former champions McLaren and Renault are among the teams that have been told to lift the conditions on their entry to the 2010 championship by June 19 or risk being left off the grid.

After days of intense speculation about which teams would comprise the make up for the 2010 championship, the FIA announced that of the current teams only Ferrari, Red Bull Racing, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Williams and Force India have been granted entries.

It means that Brawn, McLaren, Renault, BMW Sauber and Toyota have all been sidelined for now - pointing towards further frantic efforts to try and find a solution to the row over cost cuts.

In a statement issued by the FIA, it said: "These five teams have submitted conditional entries.The FIA has invited them to lift those conditions following further discussions to be concluded not later than close of business on Friday 19 June."

The inclusion of Ferrari and the two Red Bull teams is also a bone of contention, with the outfits likely to claim that they could only be entered if the conditions attached to their applications to race were met.

The FIA, however, believes the teams committed several years ago when they signed deals with the governing body and Formula One Management tying themselves to the sport.

The list also confirmed that three new teams had been granted an entry - Campos Grand Prix, Manor Grand Prix and Team US F1.

Should any of the five current teams not make the cut, then the FIA is evaluating further entries being added.

AUTOSPORT understands there are three or four other teams who are close to being granted entries, and dialogue is still ongoing.

Campos Grand Prix is being run by former grand prix driver Adrian Campos, with Team US F1 headed by Ken Anderson and Peter Windsor.

AUTOSPORT understands the new Manor Grand Prix team is headed by F3 team boss John Booth and former grand prix team owner Nick Wirth.

Team Constructor
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro Ferrari
Scuderia Toro Rosso STR TBA
Red Bull Racing Red Bull Racing TTBA
At&T Williams Williams Toyota
Force India F1 Team Force India Mercedes
Campos Grand Prix Campos Cosworth
Manor Grand Prix Manor Cosworth
Team US F1 Team US F1 Cosworth
Vodafone McLaren Mercedes* McLaren Mercedes
BMW Sauber F1 Team* BMW Sauber
Renault F1 Team* Renault
Panasonic Toyota Racing* Toyota
Brawn GP Formula One Team* Brawn TBA

* These five teams have submitted conditional entries.The FIA has invited them to lift those conditions following further discussions to be concluded not later than close of business on Friday 19 June.

The maximum number of cars permitted to enter the 2010 Championship has been increased to 26, two being entered by each competitor. Pending completion of the discussions referred to above, further due diligence is currently taking place on other potential entries.

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Ferrari and the 2 RedBull teams have put out press releases saying that they are still "conditional" teams and will not race next season if no changes are made...

due to breach of contract, they can not be forced to race next season unless they are satisfied with the rules and regs...

[Redliner]

Ferrari vows to ignore forced entry

Ferrari has reacted angrily to the FIA’s decision to include it in the 2010 entry list as a confirmed entrant and insists it will not take part in next year’s championship unless its conditions are met.

The governing body published the long-awaited list of successful 2010 applicants on Friday morning, splitting the 13 teams into a group of eight whose entries have been accepted unconditionally, and five others who have been given a week to drop their conditions or lose their slots.

Ferrari was incensed to find its name in the former category given that it had attached the same conditions to its application as the five FOTA-aligned teams who have been given a provisional status.

The FIA’s action was widely anticipated since it has maintained throughout that Ferrari is contracted to Formula 1 until 2012 under the Concorde Agreement it signed in 2005.

But the Maranello squad remains adamant that this contract is no longer valid and has issued a statement vowing to disregard the unconditional entry bestowed upon it.

“Ferrari shall not take part in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship until the conditions of its entry are satisfied,” the statement said.


“Following publication of the list of entries for the 2010 Formula One World Championship, which includes Ferrari as an unconditional entrant, Ferrari wishes to state the following:

“Ferrari submitted on 29 May 2009 an entry to the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship which is subject to certain conditions.

“As of today, these conditions have not been met.

“Notwithstanding this and despite Ferrari's previous written notice to the FIA not to do so, the FIA has included Ferrari as a unconditional participant in next year's Formula One World Championship.

“For the avoidance of any doubt, Ferrari reaffirms that it shall not take part in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship under the regulations adopted by the FIA in violation of Ferrari's rights under a written agreement with the FIA.”

Ferrari claims its contract with the FIA and Bernie Ecclestone was in effect torn up when the governing body unilaterally forced through rule changes for next season, bypassing the established forum of the Formula One Commission.

Red Bull also signed agreements with the FIA and FOM in 2005 and its two teams were listed in the ‘confirmed’ group even though they too submitted conditional entries.

Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso have issued identical statements saying they remain committed to the Formula One Teams’ Association and stand by its conditions.

RBR said: “Following the FIA’s publication of the entry list for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship, Red Bull Racing would like to make it clear that its entry was submitted as a conditional entry, consistent with those of all other FOTA members.

“Red Bull Racing remains committed to FOTA and fully endorses all its principles.”

Go Ferrari

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The European Automobile Manufacturer's Association (ACEA) has stepped into the row engulfing Formula 1 - and claimed that the current governance of the sport cannot continue.

On a frantic day of activity following the FIA's publication of the 2010 entry list, the ACEA discussed the situation during a meeting in Brussels and decided that the way F1 was run had to change.

In a statement issued on Friday, the ACEA said: "Today, the members of the Board of the European Automobile Manufacturer's Association discussed the current situation prevailing in Formula 1, and have concluded that the current governance system cannot continue.

"ACEA has come to the conclusion that the FIA needs a modernised and transparent governance system and processes, including the revision of its constitution, to ensure the voice of its members, worldwide motorsport competitors and motorists are properly reflected."

The ACEA went on to state that it supported the efforts of its car manufacturer members in trying to change F1.

"The ACEA members support the activities and objectives of the Formula One Teams' Association to establish stable governance, clear and transparent rules which are common to all competitors to achieve cost reductions including a proper attribution of revenues to the F1 teams, in order to deliver a sustainable attractive sport for the worldwide public.

"Unless these objectives are met, the BMW, Ferrari, Mercedes, Renault and Toyota along with the other teams are determined to find an alternative way to practice this sport in a manner which provides clarity, certainty of rules and administration, and a fair allocation of revenues to the competing teams. "

The ACEA was founded in 1991 and represents 15 European car, truck and bus manufacturers at EU level.

Its members are BMW Group, DAF Trucks, Daimler, FIAT Group, Ford of Europe, General Motors Europe, Jaguar Land Rover, MAN Nutzfahrzeuge, Porsche, PSA Peugeot Citroën, Renault, Scania, Toyota Motor Europe, Volkswagen and Volvo.

[Redliner]

Seriously - it just makes no sense how ONE man can have so much power. The FIA's dictatorship style of governance is antiquated. I seriously can't wait to see what Mad Max says when he goes down as the man that single-handidly killed Formula One.

[Robert]

*SLAP*

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Calling on More&Faster and Nacho.

http://fwd.five.tv/n...tage-collection

Brawn GP is selling its vast collection of old Honda and BAR formula one cars to raise extra cash.


The cars, which were active between 2001 and 2006, have been driven by the likes of Jenson Button, Rubens Barichello and Jaques Villeneuve, and will go under the hammer at the Silverstone Classic Race Meeting on 25 July.
It’s just the chassis’ that are for sale, though. The engines are long gone, although that means auction goers can get their hands on a piece of F1 heritage for a bargain price. Estimates start as low as £7000 for a 2001 BAR.


“Brawn GP is extremely proud of our heritage with British American Tobacco and Honda,” said Nick Fry. “We have inherited a vast collection of historic race cars and memorabilia from the team’s early years.


“We are delighted to give collectors and our fans the opportunity to share in our history and purchase some fantastic items, including actual race cars, through this unique sale.”

[Skyliner]

Teams attack chief F1 steward’s impartiality
June 14, 2009 by James Allen
There is a story in the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera today about a letter sent by the FOTA teams yesterday (Saturday 13th June) to the FIA complaining about the behaviour of the FIA’s Alan Donnelly at the recent Turkish Grand Prix.

The letter alleges that Donnelly was going around from team to team telling them to abandon the FOTA stance and sign up for 2010. It amounted to behaviour which the teams considered not appropriate for a man whose role at the races is to convene and oversee the stewards and to take a totally impartial view of problems arising on the track.

The teams have requested Mosley’s comment on the matter.

The anti-FIA stuff continues in another story, concerning the way the entry of Italian outfit N Technology was handled by the FIA representatives responsible for assessing the new teams. The N Technology people allege that their submission was not properly processed, documents were mislaid and so on.

Apparently the FIA had no comment on the story.

Source: James Allen's blog

[yonson]

HMMMMMMMmmm was just watching the speed report on SPEED and the dude at the end said he talked to Luca Di Montezemolo about what Ferrari would do if they didn't run F1 next year, and he just Looked around LeMans

[chiuey]

Seriously - it just makes no sense how ONE man can have so much power. The FIA's dictatorship style of governance is antiquated. I seriously can't wait to see what Mad Max says when he goes down as the man that single-handidly killed Formula One.

what do you mean "when", he has already killed it. All this cluster fuck of useless drama has already started turning me off F1. I use to make sure I'm home in time on Sundays to watch the race, now I don't even care if I catch the race live anymore...

That and the fact that no one else is winning races this yr does make it kinda boring. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact the Button is leading the 'chip but it's only good entertainment if people are still stealing race wins from him every now and then, but his schumacher-esque performance and luck has simply put him in a league of his own.

[kngrsll]

what do you mean "when", he has already killed it. All this cluster fuck of useless drama has already started turning me off F1. I use to make sure I'm home in time on Sundays to watch the race, now I don't even care if I catch the race live anymore...

That and the fact that no one else is winning races this yr does make it kinda boring. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact the Button is leading the 'chip but it's only good entertainment if people are still stealing race wins from him every now and then, but his schumacher-esque performance and luck has simply put him in a league of his own.

yeah, ive lost a little enthusiasm...

[mads]

:word: I don't think ive watched a Practice/Quali session since Malaysia

[DrDickAction]

Boring ass season.

We've been really spoiled since 2005 though

It's 2004 all over again, except Rubens probably won't even get 2 wins this time

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Formula 1 fans now have the opportunity to get a live birds-eye view of grand prix action thanks to a new official iPod application that has just been released.

The Formula One Timing and Track Positioning Application offers a dynamic 3D track view of each grand prix, and produces it with a birds eye view of either the entire field of an individual driver.

There will also be live timing, and the chance to replay sessions on users' iPhones or Ipods.

The Application, available on the iTunes store, has been put together by former Honda F1 chief Otmar Szafnauer.

Speaking about the application, Szafnauer said: "We're very pleased to offer fans an added dimension to the experience of watching grands prix. We hope that they will take advantage of this new opportunity to get a full picture of the racing action wherever they go."

Bernie Ecclestone commented: "I'm very excited by this application as it will allow fans to keep in touch with what is going on whilst on the move."

$8 though

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

$8 though

Does it have push notification for when Jens isn't in P1?

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Does it have push notification for when Jens isn't in P1?

why have a feature that's not going to be used

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

why have a feature that's not going to be used

[DrDickAction]

Does it have push notification for when Jens isn't in P1?

why have a feature that's not going to be used

[Redliner]

[DrDickAction]

JUNE 15, 2009
The FIA responds

The FIA has responded to the statements put out on Friday by FOTA and the ACEA, the European car manufacturers' association. The federation said it was surprised at the ACEA's rejection of the FIA cost-cutting measures.

The FIA said that the potential saving are "not immaterial: reducing the costs of the five manufacturers from the €400 million to €500 million recently reported by Ferrari to even a level of €200 million would release €1 billion to €1.5 billion a year back into the core businesses".

The FIA says that Porsche did not support ACEA’s F1 resolution and has instructed the ACEA secretariat to make this clear.

The federation said that a meeting late last week with FOTA bosses was very positive and that "the objectives of FOTA and the FIA on cost reduction were now very close".

The FIA says that it believed it had participated in a very constructive meeting with a large measure of agreement.

"The FIA was therefore astonished to learn that certain FOTA members not present at the meeting have falsely claimed that nothing was agreed and that the meeting had been a waste of time. There is clearly an element in FOTA which is determined to prevent any agreement being reached regardless of the damage this may cause to the sport."

http://www.grandprix...ns/ns21562.html

Hmmm...are they talking about Toyota?

[MrHahn]

His laugh looks so half hearted!

http://www.grandprix...ns/ns21562.html

Hmmm...are they talking about Toyota?

wtf is Porsche weighing in on this shit for? They wouldn't know motor-racing in the last ten years if it slapped them in the face

[Shi]

[Dazed1]

$8 though

Would but, but unable to find app on app store

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Would but, but unable to find app on app store

http://itunes.apple....e...990495&mt=8