how was the fight for first? oh that's right, none
I watched the race last night, and the way Lewis was pulling in Vettel - I believe we would've had a pretty good fight at the end had Lewis not cheated...
Posted 29 June 2010 - 02:15 PM
how was the fight for first? oh that's right, none
Posted 29 June 2010 - 02:48 PM
Vettel was on cruise control at that point. As soon as the gap got remotely close Vettel was immediately able to respond and match/go faster than Hamilton.I watched the race last night, and the way Lewis was pulling in Vettel - I believe we would've had a pretty good fight at the end had Lewis not cheated...
Posted 29 June 2010 - 03:51 PM
I watched the race last night, and the way Lewis was pulling in Vettel - I believe we would've had a pretty good fight at the end had Lewis not cheated...
Posted 29 June 2010 - 05:31 PM
tires...
put it this way... with the lack of fueling and pitstops we have to wait for the tires to go out before anything happens... alonso @ monaco did like 70 laps on the hards, koby @ valencia did 54 laps on the hards... they last way to long...
since valencia was the last race...
how was the fight for first? oh that's right, none
fight for second? yeap, none
third? again, nothing, why would jenson challenge koby if he knew he'd have to go in to change tires
battle for fourth? fifth? sixth? nothing...
where did we see the battle and over taking? 7th, between alonso, koby and buemi... why was it a battle? because koby had a fresh set of soft tires for the last four laps while buemi and alonso where putting along on hard tires for at least 30+ laps... alonso couldn't pass buemi, but koby comes out of no where and passes both...
Posted 29 June 2010 - 05:34 PM
I say leave the rules as is.
*IF* I were to make rule changes, I'd like to see more development to powerplants & chassis and less emphasis on aero. It's hard to relate to the cars when all they talk about are F-ducts, double diffusers, blown diffusers. In MotoGP, they talk about brakes, shocks and different types of powerplants. At least I can relate to that; I can't put a blown diffuser on my S2000...
So how would we achieve this?
Spec aero & diffusers that are equal to current downforce levels. Body shape is open. Unlimited powerplant configuration under a 1.5 turbo/3.0L NA rule. No refuelling with a certain amount of gas given to the teams during the weekend and they must survive 2 races as currently and must meet a minimum 750hp limit. This would take the development emphasis from aero back to engine and allow us to see some cool shit IMO.
Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:36 PM
Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:54 PM
We have to keep in mind that a lot of the current rule changes were to minimize development cost, that intention has became somewhat unnecessary with the economy.
I think you could reopen engine development and not have ferrari's budget instantly triple.
Posted 29 June 2010 - 11:31 PM
Spec aero would basically be spec chassis. That's GP2/IRL/F2/F3/etc. shit. We already have that.
Honestly, if you want to 'relate' to a racing series, choose one that's not open wheel. ALMS, Speed Cup, etc. are all much more relative to your street car than ANY open wheel series ever will be.
Posted 29 June 2010 - 11:38 PM
I was under the impression that the FIA was going to unfreeze engine dev in 2013 with fuel economy encouraging specs...not sure if the KERS return will derail that thoughFair enough. But GP2/IRL/F2/F3 run spec engines as well, and F1 is pretty damn close with their frozen 2.4L V8s. I'd rather have F1 key technology differienator be diverse engine technology rather than evolving aerodynamics. If FIA wants to make F1's 'green' push relevant, give them a path to doing so. F1 engineering has a multiplier effect on technologies - let them develop what would be relevant for today's road cars. They can develop faster than any other series.
Posted 30 June 2010 - 01:08 AM
Let's be honest: nothing powering those cars is going to have a direct effect on road car powerplants. Where's the 18,000 RPM 2.4L V8s? Or even 3L V10s? Not pushing a modern car that's going to weigh 3500+ lbs. It's just not realistic, as that's a different motor for a different task.Fair enough. But GP2/IRL/F2/F3 run spec engines as well, and F1 is pretty damn close with their frozen 2.4L V8s. I'd rather have F1 key technology differienator be diverse engine technology rather than evolving aerodynamics. If FIA wants to make F1's 'green' push relevant, give them a path to doing so. F1 engineering has a multiplier effect on technologies - let them develop what would be relevant for today's road cars. They can develop faster than any other series.
Posted 30 June 2010 - 04:02 AM
Let's be honest: nothing powering those cars is going to have a direct effect on road car powerplants. Where's the 18,000 RPM 2.4L V8s? Or even 3L V10s? Not pushing a modern car that's going to weigh 3500+ lbs. It's just not realistic, as that's a different motor for a different task.
Meanwhile you already see influences from the Corvette race team's plans on the modern Z06 because of the regulations on how closely the road car must match the race car. That's where you're going to see real racing tech hit the street, not from F1 development. The cars are just too far removed, despite what a few marketing departments would like you to think.
Posted 30 June 2010 - 09:28 AM
Posted 30 June 2010 - 06:02 PM
I'm not sure it came up as most people were talking about the massive wreck.Did anyone ever ask Webber why he went backwards? Looked like he got squeezed a lot - but that's hardly an excuse
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