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#976 DrDickAction

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:40 AM

interesting read:

My Wish List For a FOTA Breakaway Series: The Circuits

If it comes to it, and seems less likely now than it did 24 hours ago. If the breakaway series really is established, the FOTA series has to serve a more purist and dedicated audience than the one that will watch the new and "improved" Mosley run Formula One.

Bernie Ecclestone says he will lodge legal action against the FOTA teams if they try to lure away any current TV stations, sponsors or venues under contract with the FOM. So The breakaway series need to make a schedule without inciting the ire of Bernie Ecclestone.

Formula One in the 21st century has lost its focus, in the current schedule there are three races in the Middle East and five races in the Pacific Rim. But no Grand Prix in North America and the race at Magny Cours is cancelled this year and in jeopardy for the future. The FOTA led series needs to fix this, without trying to break any agreements it has or used to have with FOM

So FOTA need to reemphasize the unique "Europeanness" of Grand Prix racing. They can do this very easily.

Formula One will be moving to Donington, so Silverstone will be available. Any of the Ferrari related circuits in italy would be awesome especially Fiorano or Mugello.

Most important of all despite all of the ill fame it has received after that fatal weekend in May of 1994, Imola must return to grand prix racing.

Jerez, the Algarve, Zolder are all good options. Another one would be the Hockeinheimring, Formula One does not intend to return there after 2010 and it is a classic and hallowed ground for Grand Prix Racing. If they could restore it to its former greatness even better. Returns to the A1 Ring and race in South Africa either at the classic Kyalami circuit or at the Durban street circuit would be nice additions.

Paul Ricard is a great option for races to be held in France, another possibility could be a street course somewhere in the Riviera to try and compete with Monaco.

In Japan, Fuji, despite its flaws would be a good choice, especially because it's owned by Toyota. Mont Tremblant would be a good replacement for Gilles Villenueve in Canada. In the United States the optios are limitless, Indianapolis if Formula One doesn't return, if they do return then Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca or Long Beach. Two grand prix in the United States would be even better.

A Mexican GP could return to the Distrito Federal at the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez, for the Brazilain race, Grand Prix racing could return to Rio de Janeiro and race at Jacarepagua.

I don't know much about racing in about Australia but the circuit in which the Bathurst race is legendary for a reason so that would be a good place to run a grand prix.

These circuits would be a nice basis to run a series that could legitemately rival the FIA run Formula One. By returning to some of the classic, great but forgotten circuits from the history of the golden era of Grand Prix racing


http://bleacherrepor...es-the-circuits

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:42 AM

I just want to point out that no other F1 news sites are picking up this story, only Autosport. Now I do trust Autosport's journalistic integrity, but they were also the ones that broke the story about McLaren getting banned for Stephneygate (and we all know that they never got banned...).

Edit: NM, its official... http://www.teamsasso...9/press-release

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:44 AM

Ehh, nevermind, makes some interesting suggestions, some other retarded ones...but wouldn't Fuji still be under F1 contract?

Monaco can do whatever they wan tif my understanding is correct, but Gilles Villeneuve and Magny Cours should both be available as they don't have any freaking races.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:45 AM

I just want to point out that no other F1 news sites are picking up this story, only Autosport. Now I do trust Autosport's journalistic integrity, but they were also the ones that broke the story about McLaren getting banned for Stephneygate (and we all know that they never got banned...).

BBC is reporting it.
http://news.bbc.co.u...one/8108488.stm

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:48 AM

I can't wait to hear what Mad Max and old man Berns have to say tomorrow :rofl:

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:54 AM

I can't wait to hear what Mad Max and old man Berns have to say tomorrow :rofl:

:rofl:

On a side note, I don't post in OT f1 threads...taht would be like cheating on your SO or spending father's day with your uncle....but here are a few classic lines from the breakaway thread:

lol

open wheel racing continues on its long path of self destruction


could be cool

i hardly see any innovation in f1 anymore compared to early nineties with fan suction and 6 wheels and other crazy shit


Fota should have a race during speed weeks at Daytona.



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Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:57 AM

Following these efforts all the teams have confirmed to the FIA and the commercial rights holder that they are willing to commit until the end of 2012.


What does this entail? Commit to supply engine/gearboxes? Because they can't commit to race unless they officially lodge their unconditional entries.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:04 AM

:rofl:

On a side note, I don't post in OT f1 threads...taht would be like cheating on your SO or spending father's day with your uncle....but here are a few classic lines from the breakaway thread:



wow those quotes, THOSE QUOTES

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:04 AM

i have not watched any races this season but will support FOTA races next season.

At least one race in North America would be awesome (even if it's in Mexico :rofl:)

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:06 AM

What does this entail? Commit to supply engine/gearboxes? Because they can't commit to race unless they officially lodge their unconditional entries.

I think they were just saying "We were doing all of these things to cut costs and we were even willing to commit through 2012 if they would've worked with us."

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:13 AM

:rofl:

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:13 AM

I think they were just saying "We were doing all of these things to cut costs and we were even willing to commit through 2012 if they would've worked with us."

Ahh, yes.. I misread that. FOTA1 FTW!

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:16 AM

i just shat a brick the shape of a r29

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:17 AM

I want to see Silverstone, Suzuka, Indy, Montreal, Spa, Hockenheim, Magnay-Cours, and all the other tracks in legitimate countries that got boned by FOM's greed back in the new series.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:19 AM

Playing devils advocate here...what's wrong w/ the manufs dropping out?

They are there to sell cars, not race anyways...why do we lose interest when the manfs. drop out?

edit: this is a point my friend just brought up, and I find it interesting...

Big companies mean big names and more interest across the board.

We watch F1 and not GP2. People are generally more interested in Ferrari than Andretti-Green or..... fuck, I can't even name a GP2 team off the top of my head.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:21 AM

Assuming all this sticks...

as of 2010, I wont' watch F1 with these B teams... Williams will be champ and that's pretty much it... and they'll have a bunch of I don't give a shit about drivers...

I won't watch FOTA1 (we-like-cars-and-shit-crew name) because it's not F1, it'll be some form of A1/GP series that just seems lower tier... doesn't have that same F1 presences... its' just another series...

guess i'm done with open wheeled racing... shame :(

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:23 AM

Assuming all this sticks...

as of 2010, I wont' watch F1 with these B teams... Williams will be champ and that's pretty much it... and they'll have a bunch of I don't give a shit about drivers...

I won't watch FOTA1 (we-like-cars-and-shit-crew name) because it's not F1, it'll be some form of A1/GP series that just seems lower tier... doesn't have that same F1 presences... its' just another series...

guess i'm done with open wheeled racing... shame :(

I disagree with this simply because the manufacturer backed teams with the fastest and most technologically advanced cars with the best driver will make it the premier series. The only team with f1 prestige not in the new series would be WilliamsF1.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:30 AM

FOTA-1 will have all of the prestige of F1 from a few years ago, going back to the tracks that should never have been removed from the calendar and the best drivers in the world.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:31 AM

I disagree with this simply because the manufacturer backed teams with the fastest and most technologically advanced cars with the best driver will make it the premier series. The only team with f1 prestige not in the new series would be WilliamsF1.


When's the last time you watch an A1GP race? GP2? WTCC? DTM? MotoGP 250? MotoGP 125? PWRC? LeMans besides the 24hr or 12hr of Sebring? Indy besides the 500?

All these are pretty high on the pecking order of international races, but chances are, most of us don't watch them even though some of the have major manufactores behind them... (Audi/Mercedies/VW/BMW/Citroen/Ford........etc etc...)

Just because Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, Renault get together and make a new series, doesn't make it the greatest thing since sliced bread...

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:33 AM

I want to see Silverstone, Suzuka, Indy, Montreal, Spa, Hockenheim, Magnay-Cours, and all the other tracks in legitimate countries that got boned by FOM's greed back in the new series.


Yes!

REBUILD old Hockenheim - none of this cut down pansy shit


I disagree with this simply because the manufacturer backed teams with the fastest and most technologically advanced cars with the best driver will make it the premier series. The only team with f1 prestige not in the new series would be WilliamsF1.



That went out the window when he jumped ship. Oh wait - that's a bad choice of words for Frank

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:37 AM

When's the last time you watch an A1GP race? GP2? WTCC? DTM? MotoGP 250? MotoGP 125? PWRC? LeMans besides the 24hr or 12hr of Sebring? Indy besides the 500?

All these are pretty high on the pecking order of international races, but chances are, most of us don't watch them even though some of the have major manufactores behind them... (Audi/Mercedies/VW/BMW/Citroen/Ford........etc etc...)

Just because Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, Renault get together and make a new series, doesn't make it the greatest thing since sliced bread...

But what difference does the name F1 add to the spectacle. Lets say you took the current F1 grid and then renamed the series A1, B1, or whatever... If you kept the same teams, same cars and same drivers on 'historically same' tracks it wouldn't make a difference at the end of the day except maybe a reduction in ticket prices just because its not called F1.

I guess the name F1 isn't a big deal to me at all, and isn't the reason why I was hooked by my first experience at a race. It's all about the teams, drivers and cars.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:48 AM

i have not watched any races this season but will support FOTA races next season.

At least one race in North America would be awesome (even if it's in Mexico :o)


I'm all for Mexico!
I practically live there :(

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:53 AM

Dunno if this is already said...
but if a new FOTA series starts, they should name it F-0 :-D

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:00 AM

When's the last time you watch an A1GP race? GP2? WTCC? DTM? MotoGP 250? MotoGP 125? PWRC? LeMans besides the 24hr or 12hr of Sebring? Indy besides the 500?

All these are pretty high on the pecking order of international races, but chances are, most of us don't watch them even though some of the have major manufactores behind them... (Audi/Mercedies/VW/BMW/Citroen/Ford........etc etc...)

Just because Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, Renault get together and make a new series, doesn't make it the greatest thing since sliced bread...

If it's the major teams from F1, and they cater more to the fans with things like lower ticket prices and races that aren't in a fucking sandbox across the fucking globe with no attendance, I don't see the problem.

Oh, and I watch LeMans/ALMS when I can (I missed the 24 because I was in Detroit for the RB Air Race).

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:01 AM

Dunno if this is already said...
but if a new FOTA series starts, they should name it F-0 :-D


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