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#1001 Nacho

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 11:32 PM

We all know senna would belt her in the teeth as soon as she deserved it, but which current driver would be most apt to slap a bitch?


I woulda said DC up until last year.

Now i'd go with Drunk Kimiâ„¢

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 02:16 AM

[quote name='Nacho' post='23394' date='Feb 16 2009, 06:32 PM']I woulda said DC up until last year.

Now i'd go with Drunk Kimiâ„¢[/quote]

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 10:12 AM

Despite the efforts to increase overtaking, Mark Webber thinks F1's ‘show’ could actually be negatively affected by the sweeping 2009 rules changes.

In an effort to make it easier for drivers to pursue and pass their rivals, the cars' aerodynamic profiles have been totally overhauled, and measures like KERS and cockpit-adjustable front wings introduced.

But when asked if the racing is set to be closer and better this season, Red Bull's Webber answered: "Not necessarily,” the Australian said in interview with motorline.cc. "I think the time gaps will be bigger. Last year if the gaps in qualifying were about two-tenths, this year it will be maybe four-tenths. You can calculate how big the gaps will be after three laps.”

"Everyone says the show needs to be improved, but last year there were some exciting races. The last two years have been absolutely spectacular. They're dreamers if they think they can make the show better," said Webber.

The 32-year-old also said too much overtaking is actually boring, pointing the finger at the IndyCar series.

"It's not very exciting if there are 10,000 passes every race: it has to be a challenge. It is not meant to be easy, otherwise it's like IndyCars, not very exciting."

Webber observed that even though the aerodynamic profile of the cars has changed dramatically, arguably the biggest obstacle to overtaking - F1's extremely short braking distances - remains the same.

"We are still going to brake really late, and here (at Jerez last week) we're not lapping much slower than last year. The limit is the limit."

One could counter argue that with larger gaps in terms of lap time expected, a faster car will now have a greater chance of passing a slower one, unlike in 2008 where the field was so tightly compressed.


http://en.f1-live.co...217101042.shtml

I can understand where he's coming from, honestly. I myself wonder if 'the show' will be worse due to a bigger performance spread on the cars compared to last year's relatively tight field.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:40 PM

Kimi Raikkonen set the fastest time on the second day of this week's Formula One test at Bahrain, as the good weather allowed the three teams present to get plenty of mileage under their belts.

The Finn's day, however, was not without trouble, as he lost three hours due to a problem with his car's KERS cooling circuit.

The problem, however, was used by Ferrari to experiment with an emergency in case of a KERS failure.

Raikkonen ended the day just more than one tenth clear of Toyota's Jarno Trulli - pointing once again to how close the competitiveness between the teams looks.

Trulli completed a total of 149 laps over the course of the day, and was pretty happy with how much progress had been with the TF109.

"This has been a very good test for us," he explained. "I've covered well over 2000km in three days and I feel happy with the car. It seems competitive and reliable so a start like this gives us a solid base for the season ahead.

"There is still a lot of time before the first race and there is plenty of scope for teams to make big steps between now and Melbourne. So we will have to keep pushing hard to keep up the momentum in the factory and at the remaining tests. Still, so far so good."

The only other driver present was BMW Sauber's Nick Heidfeld, who spent the day concentrating on mechanical set-ups.

"Today I drove the new BMW Sauber F1.09 in warm weather conditions for the first time, so the most important thing for me was to learn more about the general balance of the car", explained Heidfeld.

"Overall it was a good day because I tried a lot of different set-up solutions. I already feel happy about how the car reacts to changes."

Today's times:

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:32.102 103
2. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:32.230 149
3. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:32.585 104


All the Bahrain times have been super close...

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:43 PM

question about the KERS system...
if a team doesn't want to use KERS for the first 5 or 6 races... do they need to keep that weight on the car? I mean I know that F1 cars have to have a minimum weight... and drivers are losing weight to counter act the weight of the KERS system...

so in theory, if Ferrari didn't want to use KERS and the estimated weight of the car was 50lbs heavier with the system in the place, by not having the KERS system installed, would this give them 50lbs of ballast to play with? or the car up to 50lbs lighter as long as they stay above the minimum weight?

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:44 PM

Any times from 2008 as comparison? I wonder why Webbah says he thinks the field will be spread out. I haven't seen the evidence to support his claim.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:55 PM

Any times from 2008 as comparison? I wonder why Webbah says he thinks the field will be spread out. I haven't seen the evidence to support his claim.


Webber is never short on words :bowdown:

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:25 PM

question about the KERS system...
if a team doesn't want to use KERS for the first 5 or 6 races... do they need to keep that weight on the car? I mean I know that F1 cars have to have a minimum weight... and drivers are losing weight to counter act the weight of the KERS system...

so in theory, if Ferrari didn't want to use KERS and the estimated weight of the car was 50lbs heavier with the system in the place, by not having the KERS system installed, would this give them 50lbs of ballast to play with? or the car up to 50lbs lighter as long as they stay above the minimum weight?

that, because the cars are always underweight, even with KERS. predictions thus far have said that with KERS the car is anywhere between 490-535kg, where the limit is 605kg.

Weights (taken from F1 Racing March 2008 edition (season preview) and listed by 2009 team; several weights, notably Kubica's, have changed since):

Ferrari: Massa 59kg - Raikkonen 62kg
McLaren: Kovalainen 66kg - Hamilton 67kg
BMW: Heidfeld 61kg - Kubica 73kg
Renault: Alonso 68kg - Piquet Jr 70kg
Toyota: Trulli 60kg - Glock 64kg
Williams: Rosberg 69kg - Nakajima 62kg
Red Bull: Vettel 62kg - Webber 74kg
Toro Rosso: Bourdais 72kg
Force India: Sutil 75kg - Fisichella 66kg



it just results to a significant reduction in available leeway for ballast right now.


here's an interesting article on the weight issue of KERS:

http://club.forceind..._weighty_matter

their bottom line is:

6) The efficiency equation. 10kg is worth about 0.3 seconds per lap on average according to Autosport November 6 edition. KERS is said to be worth a maximum of 0.35 seconds per lap. So if the weight distribution were taken out of the equation, a KERS system would need to be a maximum of 11.66kg to be more beneficial than not running it. However, the lightest system is said to be 25kg, which would make it 13.33kg heavier and 0.4 seconds slower than a non-KERS-equipped car. The heaviest would be a spectacular 1.45 seconds slower. That would have put Massa's Ferrari in 19th in Q1 in Brazil. No wonder Toyota are delaying the implmentation of their system and Ferrari is dithering.



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Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:29 PM

http://en.f1-live.co...217101042.shtml

I can understand where he's coming from, honestly. I myself wonder if 'the show' will be worse due to a bigger performance spread on the cars compared to last year's relatively tight field.

Does Webber mean that the gaps betweens teams will be larger? They were pretty large last year I think.

I'm hoping he means that easier passing will prevent the "trains" from occurring. :bowdown:

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:31 PM

If this USF1 team is for real, I will pick up and move to Charlotte immediately. I will beg, borrow or steal some form of employment with them, I don't care if it's sweeping the floors for free! I want to be a part of F1 that badly. God I'm a loser, LOL. :naughty:


:bowdown:

I have family in Charlotte, that work in NASCRAP too, I did some werk in NASCRAP but didn't really care about it, but I'd work in F1!!!

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 08:36 PM

Does Webber mean that the gaps betweens teams will be larger? They were pretty large last year I think.

I'm hoping he means that easier passing will prevent the "trains" from occurring. :mamoru:

Last year the entire field was separated in quali by like 1 second, from pole to 18th.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 10:37 PM

So ING is pulling out after this year

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 10:57 PM

Remember that USF1 team? they contacted my friend to do some photography and webwork for them :eek3: he knew im big into F1, he called me to ask me if i knew anything about it :rofl:

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 11:36 PM

Remember that USF1 team? they contacted my friend to do some photography and webwork for them :eek3: he knew im big into F1, he called me to ask me if i knew anything about it :rofl:

Nice.

They need any more help? Perhaps video production?

:o

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 11:46 PM

Nice.

They need any more help? Perhaps video production?

:o


ill mention it to him...

btw, this guy used to do porn :rofl: he has had some pretty sweet jobs :eek3:

edit: not star in porn, he photographed girls, lol better clear that up

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 12:10 AM

Remember that USF1 team? they contacted my friend to do some photography and webwork for them :eek3: he knew im big into F1, he called me to ask me if i knew anything about it :rofl:


SWEET! :rofl: :eek3: :o

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 12:26 AM

Remember that USF1 team? they contacted my friend to do some photography and webwork for them :o he knew im big into F1, he called me to ask me if i knew anything about it :eek3:


get the originals and put it on the blog or ask him to get some shitty cellphone pics... make them blurry and shit (like that small audi R15 photo)
"late breaking insider photos"... send a link to f1-live and autosport

F1-Crew would be on the map :rofl:

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 12:45 AM

get the originals and put it on the blog or ask him to get some shitty cellphone pics... make them blurry and shit (like that small audi R15 photo)
"late breaking insider photos"... send a link to f1-live and autosport

F1-Crew would be on the map :rofl:


:eek3:

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:20 AM

get the originals and put it on the blog or ask him to get some shitty cellphone pics... make them blurry and shit (like that small audi R15 photo)
"late breaking insider photos"... send a link to f1-live and autosport

F1-Crew would be on the map :rofl:


That's fantastic. DO THIS.

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:47 AM

he said he will get me some special shots!! :rofl:

and i got invited to the press conference! but i have class, i dunno how i can get out of that... hmm...

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 02:21 AM

he said he will get me some special shots!! :rofl:

and i got invited to the press conference! but i have class, i dunno how i can get out of that... hmm...

I have an idea; don't go.

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 02:56 AM

he said he will get me some special shots!! :rofl:

and i got invited to the press conference! but i have class, i dunno how i can get out of that... hmm...

You have several friends who will break you legs if you don't? :eek3:

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 03:51 AM

:rofl: it is too cool to pass up!

shit i feel bad for missing school, lol what a boy scout :eek3:

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 03:52 AM

its going to be in charlotte, isnt someone here from charlotte?

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 04:01 AM

skip class for this...
i'm not big on skipping class either when i was in school, but when the Gumball 3000 launched from SF, you can bet your ass I was out there all day... met a shit ton of people and saw cars we don't have here in the states...




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