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[yonson]

FOTA-1 will have all of the prestige of F1 from a few years ago, going back to the tracks that should never have been removed from the calendar and the best drivers in the world.

:motherfuckingwerd:

[_R_]

But what difference does the name F1 add to the spectacle. Lets say you took the current F1 grid and then renamed the series A1, B1, or whatever... If you kept the same teams, same cars and same drivers on 'historically same' tracks it wouldn't make a difference at the end of the day except maybe a reduction in ticket prices just because its not called F1.

I guess the name F1 isn't a big deal to me at all, and isn't the reason why I was hooked by my first experience at a race. It's all about the teams, drivers and cars.

the thing that makes F1 such a big deal is the 60 years of history of being the best of the best...
take those same cars and teams and drivers in a new series, and it's exactly that... a new series... it doesn't have the history of F1, it doesn't have the same feeling or presences of F1, it's just another series...

What makes IBM so great? or Nike? it's the heritige...
what if their top engineers and designs jumped ship and started their own company...
would you drop IBM servers for Product X? or swap your running shoes from Nike to Feeties?

[yonson]

But what difference does the name F1 add to the spectacle. Lets say you took the current F1 grid and then renamed the series A1, B1, or whatever... If you kept the same teams, same cars and same drivers on 'historically same' tracks it wouldn't make a difference at the end of the day except maybe a reduction in ticket prices just because its not called F1.

I guess the name F1 isn't a big deal to me at all, and isn't the reason why I was hooked by my first experience at a race. It's all about the teams, drivers and cars.

QFMFT

[More&Faster]

this sucks. if F1 doesn't die out in a few years and we have a long term series war, everyone will lose.

[More&Faster]

the thing that makes F1 such a big deal is the 60 years of history of being the best of the best...
take those same cars and teams and drivers in a new series, and it's exactly that... a new series... it doesn't have the history of F1, it doesn't have the same feeling or presences of F1, it's just another series...

What makes IBM so great? or Nike? it's the heritige...
what if their top engineers and designs jumped ship and started their own company...
would you drop IBM servers for Product X? or swap your running shoes from Nike to Feeties?

werd. no matter what teams F1 loses, it'll always be F1. the brand counts for a LOT. (not to me, but to their success)

[mads]

f-0 is no emissions racing btw

[mads]

HD DVD IS GOING TO WIN!

[HighTachPres]

my thoughts EXACTLY

[Nacho]

the thing that makes F1 such a big deal is the 60 years of history of being the best of the best...
take those same cars and teams and drivers in a new series, and it's exactly that... a new series... it doesn't have the history of F1, it doesn't have the same feeling or presences of F1, it's just another series...

What makes IBM so great? or Nike? it's the heritige...
what if their top engineers and designs jumped ship and started their own company...
would you drop IBM servers for Product X? or swap your running shoes from Nike to Feeties?

If the latter options were superior; yes.

I'm not hung up on badges or brands, honestly. They could call it MOTOR CAR RACING SERIES FOR PEOPLES WHO LIKE MOTOR CARS! and i'd still watch it if McLaren, Ferrari, BMW-Sauber, Brawn, etc. were in it. The fact the new series is poised to be lower cost for fans AND move back to the historic tracks in 'real' countries is a bonus. Albeit a huge one.

[mads]

If the latter options were superior; yes.

I'm not hung up on badges or brands, honestly. They could call it MOTOR CAR RACING SERIES FOR PEOPLES WHO LIKE MOTOR CARS! and i'd still watch it if McLaren, Ferrari, BMW-Sauber, Brawn, etc. were in it.

mcrsfpwlmc!

[Ximian]

http://www.guardian....one.motorsports

"Just kidding fuckers, I haven't completely killed F1 yet" - Max Mosley, a month from now

[Nacho]

mcrsfpwlmc-crew.com

[Ximian]

"Formula 1" is a inuneloquent sounding name anyway

[Nacho]

http://www.guardian....one.motorsports

"Just kidding fuckers, I haven't completely killed F1 yet" - Max Mosley, a month from now

Let's see, things to do before I retire

1) Sex Scandal..... Check.

2) Ruin F1...... Check!

[mads]

3) revive F2 only for people to forget about it 4 days later.

[mads]

3) revive F2 only for people to forget about it 4 days later.

[Ximian]

The worst part about that scandal for me was that I read he spoke with a (bad) German accent and whipped one of the prostitutes while possibly trying to role play a concentration camp guard punishing a prisoner. Remember that Max's father was the founder of the Nazi party in the England and that Hitler did attend his father's wedding. Why this relation wasn't more shocking, I'm not sure.

[Nacho]

The worst part about that scandal for me was that I read he spoke with a (bad) German accent and whipped one of the prostitutes while possibly trying to role play a concentration camp guard punishing a prisoner. Remember that Max's father was the founder of the Nazi party in the England and that Hitler did attend his father's wedding. Why this relation wasn't more shocking, I'm not sure.

They later claimed the German accent part and Nazi connotations were falsified. FWIW, Max sued that newspaper and won.

[Ximian]

They later claimed the German accent part and Nazi connotations were falsified. FWIW, Max sued that newspaper and won.

I never read that, must not have been big news. Did they ever release the video?

[dgr81]

I never read that, must not have been big news. Did they ever release the video?

yes on news of the world

[Nacho]

I never read that, must not have been big news. Did they ever release the video?

The retraction to the previous day's cover story is generally put on page 8.

[Skyliner]

On a side note, I don't post in OT f1 threads...taht would be like cheating on your SO or spending father's day with your uncle....but here are a few classic lines from the breakaway thread:

None of them use their shift key consistently, and I hate them for it.

[chiuey]

I would like to be the first to congratulate Williams for winning the 2010 Formula One World Championship!

no no no, force india will win coz Williams will loose Nico Rosberg at the end of this year.

[chiuey]

I say they should name the new series GP1, get the teams that got rejected by FIA into their league, sign a bunch of race tracks that can have high capacity, and sell tickets at half the price of F1 tickets. :biggthumb:

[DrDickAction]

the thing that makes F1 such a big deal is the 60 years of history of being the best of the best...
take those same cars and teams and drivers in a new series, and it's exactly that... a new series... it doesn't have the history of F1, it doesn't have the same feeling or presences of F1, it's just another series...

What makes IBM so great? or Nike? it's the heritige...
what if their top engineers and designs jumped ship and started their own company...
would you drop IBM servers for Product X? or swap your running shoes from Nike to Feeties?

The new series...if done right...will be more like classic f1 than its current form. The only good thing Bernie & Max have done is not canceling monaco and spa...that's it. I think to rescue the spirit of F1, you have to get it out of their hands. I'm sure it'll suck at times, and there will be bumps in the road, but at least many of us have more hope than "when is bernie gonna die?!?!!?"