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#1076 Redliner

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 09:28 PM

If it is it would be nice b/c teams can cut down on costs by getting away from wind tunnels. Bravo to VR for trying it...

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 12:08 AM

If it is it would be nice b/c teams can cut down on costs by getting away from wind tunnels. Bravo to VR for trying it...


Teams have used CFD for years. If the wind tunnel correlated exactly what the CFD data did, they'd have cut out wind tunnel testing years ago.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 12:23 AM

Teams have used CFD for years. If the wind tunnel correlated exactly what the CFD data did, they'd have cut out wind tunnel testing years ago.


true... but maybe computer horse power in the past hasn't been powerful enough to give results in a quick enough manner....

I know some of my animations here at work sometimes have to be toned down because my computer isn't fast enough to crunch the data... some of my frames in animations might take 30 minutes to render, and when i have to do 1000+ frames, i simply don't have the time to sit around and watch progress bars for 2 - 3 weeks... by the next time i get a new system, i can probably have that down to maybe 3-4 minutes a frame, and then it might be a possibility for a future project...

for example, this past christmas holiday, i needed to render out 20 seconds worth of animation in HD... so roughly 600 frames, but 5 different times, so total of 3000 frames. I did a test run the weekend before our holiday break... from friday night till monday morning, it rendered about 170 frames... there was no way i could do 3000 frames in a weeks time, so i had to change my project some... wasn't as pretty but it was accomplished...

and trust me, working with fluid dynamics and projects with millions of points or reference/data/location... it takes time...

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:06 AM

true... but maybe computer horse power in the past hasn't been powerful enough to give results in a quick enough manner....

and trust me, working with fluid dynamics and projects with millions of points or reference/data/location... it takes time...

By the same token of 'if it worked' theory: i'm sure the F1 teams have invested in the top CFD software/hardware to stay current. Especially with the new limitations on physical testing.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 04:17 AM

By the same token of 'if it worked' theory: i'm sure the F1 teams have invested in the top CFD software/hardware to stay current. Especially with the new limitations on physical testing.


money invested in driver simulators instead?

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 06:23 AM

things you don't see every day

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 06:46 AM

The best moment of the test was when Alonso was closing in on Jenson Button on the track. There were a couple of laps when they were nose-to-tail with each other and I think Ferrari wanted to see the pace of the F10 running in turbulent air behind another car. What was interesting though, was that the McLaren was pulling away down the straights and Alonso was catching him through the corners, so in terms of power and torque Mercedes appears to have the advantage. But you could see the Ferrari was quicker overall, of course you don't know what fuel loads and set ups they were using,


interesting...

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 12:01 PM

Testing happening atm, Alonso doing a race sim and going pretty fast

Virgin FW fell off a while ago and they dont seem to be coming out again...9 seconds off the pace

12:20 Virgin says it will be unable to run anymore today

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 12:44 PM

Testing happening atm, Alonso doing a race sim and going pretty fast

Virgin FW fell off a while ago and they dont seem to be coming out again...9 seconds off the pace

12:20 Virgin says it will be unable to run anymore today

I guess they forgot to integrate their CFD package with the FEA package on the structures side. :dunno:

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:40 PM

9 Secs off pace?!

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:41 PM

to be fair they only did like 17 laps? most of them in the wet I think

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:43 PM

i was giving VR the benefit of the doubt, but if they don't pick up the pace soon, I'm going to say Nacho was right...

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 05:28 PM

things you don't see every day


What are they missiles???

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 05:38 PM

What are they missiles???


wtf? this is McLaren, lazzzzzzers baby! :mamoru:

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 05:50 PM

wtf? this is McLaren, lazzzzzzers baby! :mamoru:

Possibly a bunch of pitot-static tubes behind the wheel. That'd be my guess after "IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER"

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 06:19 PM

mclaren is british...
james bond is british....

you do the maths...

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 07:45 PM

And in other news, McLaren is disqualified from the 2010 F1 Championship in what is now known as "Laser-gate" for dumping oil slicks in front of their competitors and firing lazers at other competitors cars...

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 11:26 PM

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Dont mind me just leading Ferrari to the promised land

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 03:11 AM

All the shit ALOLonso talked about F1 not being a sport because of Monza. Fucker will be singing a different tune come October no doubt.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 03:33 AM

Lets take everything out of context.

ALOLonso is gonna win at Monza and tifosi will explode in delight.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 08:35 AM

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They were using those gadget to measure airflow...

it appears they used paint on the car the day before they brought out the airflow gauges.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 02:11 PM

VR still havent fixed their car :mamoru:

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 02:57 PM

VR still havent fixed their car :mamoru:

they finally got it fixeed...
but only a handful of laps so far, 10 seconds off the pace

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 05:46 PM

Where are you guys following testing this year? I haven't been able to find much on these tests, no pics etc... :mamoru:

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 06:07 PM

Where are you guys following testing this year? I haven't been able to find much on these tests, no pics etc... :mamoru:


I have most of the high res pictures released so far, probably a gigs worth....
I posted some in the car launches thread, but for the most part, they all look exactly the same, if you're seen one set of pictures or remember last year... nothing really has changed for constant updates, i only really post the ones that stand out from the average (ie: mclarens wind measurements/renaults wing/etc)

autosport.com has a pretty good updates post during the tests for on track action and times...




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