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[kngrsll]

sucks to be him then, he would have won the wdc if his pitstop wasnt botched so it doesnt change anything :/

yeah? i thought he was pitting from nearly dead last already? shit i cant remember

[Skyliner]

Has this been posted yet?

Statement by Nelson Piquet Jnr on his Singapore crash leaked online

Nelson Piquet Jnr claims Flavio Briatore ordered him to crash at Singapore

Nelson Piquet Jnr’s statement to the FIA about his controversial crash during the Singapore Grand Prix last year have appeared online.

F1SA has published the documents which are reproduced in full below.

Piquet’s statement includes the following remarks:

At the time of this conversation I was in a very fragile and emotional state of mind. This state of mind was brought about by very intense stress due to the fact that Mr Briatore had refused to inform me of whether or not my driver’s contract would be renewed for the next racing year (2009) as is customarily the case in the middle of the year (around July or August). [...]

After the meeting with Mr Symonds and Mr Briatore, Mr Symonds took me aside to a quiet corner and, using a map, pointed me to the exact corner of the track where I should crash. This corner was selected because the specific location of the track did not have any cranes that would allow a damaged car to be swiftly lifted off the track, nor did it have any side entrances to the track, which would allow a Safety Marshall to quickly move the damaged car away from the track. Therefore, it was felt that a crash in this specific position would be nearly certain to cause an obstruction on the track which would thus necessitate the deployment of a safety car in order for the track to be cleared and ensure the safe continuation of the race.

Mr Symonds also told me which exact lap to cause the incident upon, so that a strategy could be devised for my team mate Mr Fernando Alonso. [...]

During these discussions, no mention was made of any concerns with respect to the security implications of this strategy, either for myself, the public or other drivers. The only comment made in this context was one by Mr Pat Symonds who warned me to ‘be acreful, which I took to mean that I should not injure myself.

I intentionally caused the crash by letting go of control of the car just before the relevant corner. In order to make sure I would cause the incident during the correct lap, I asked my team several times via the radio to confirm the lap number, which I would not normally do.

After the FIA officially announced its investigation Renault declared it would not comment on the matter before the hearing on Monday 21st September. Will Renault stick by that and allow Piquet’s damaging claims to go unanswered?

Source: F1 Fanatic.com article

[mads]

Still lapping faster than Piquet

me > Fred.























my tire hub disengaged and is catching on fire against the engine in that pic, and i still did four laps before tire sent me into the wall

[vietlol]

yeah? i thought he was pitting from nearly dead last already? shit i cant remember

he was going to be just fine but the fucked pitstop and consequent drive through killed his race

[chiuey]

he was going to be just fine but the fucked pitstop and consequent drive through killed his race

do what happens to the 08 WDC? would Alonso be stripped of his win in that race? will the WDC points for that race not count?

Basically, if the strip Alonso of the win, Rosberg get's the win. WDC standing only increase Hamiltons points lead.

But if they remove the results, then Massa gets the WDC.

[vietlol]

do what happens to the 08 WDC? would Alonso be stripped of his win in that race? will the WDC points for that race not count?

Basically, if the strip Alonso of the win, Rosberg get's the win. WDC standing only increase Hamiltons points lead.

But if they remove the results, then Massa gets the WDC.

If Renault is found guilty I can see them being exluded from the standings and having to pay the prize money back or something, but I dont think they will alter individual results and certainly not the wdc table.

[MrHahn]

In order to make sure I would cause the incident during the correct lap, I asked my team several times via the radio to confirm the lap number, which I would not normally do.

He wouldn't normally tell his team when he was going to crash - it just happened.

[vietlol]

Flava Flav and Renault suing Piquets for blackmail

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Montezemolo: Alonso will join Ferrari

By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Friday, September 11th 2009, 12:18 GMT

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo says Fernando Alonso will sooner or later drive for the historic Italian squad, but the boss suggested it will not happen next year.

Renault driver Alonso has been linked with a move to Ferrari for a long time, and speculation became even stronger after Spanish banking giant Santander, backer of Alonso, confirmed a five-year deal with the Maranello outfit yesterday.

Di Montezemolo suggested Ferrari already has too many drivers for next season to think of Alonso, but the Italian insisted he will hire the two-time champion some day.

"Sooner or later I'll make it happen. We'll see when," di Montezemolo told Spanish reporters at Monza.

"For next year we have Raikkonen, Massa, Fisichella, Badoer, Gene, and I hope Michael Schumacher, so we have a bench as long as Real Madrid's.

"We have two great champion with the 2007 champion and the man who was 2008 champion for 15 seconds when he crossed the line. So I think we have two extraordinary drivers."

He added: "Having said that, I've always liked Alonso, because he is a great driver that I spotted back when he was in Minardi. He won titles, and I've always thought that sooner or later, all great drivers come to Ferrari.

"Before the race at Imola, Ayton Senna came to me and told me: 'I want to end my career with Ferrari'; Prost, Lauda, Mansell, Michael, so we'll see. We look ahead, and life is long for everyone."

The Ferrari boss reiterated his support for the introduction of third cars in Formula 1 in order to allow the sport to have a more competitive field.

"I'm very much in favour for all teams to be able to field three cars, in order to be able to field young drivers, new people, a better show," he said.

"I think it's better to have three cars from well-known teams, than two cars from uncompetitive and unknown teams with uncompetitive drivers. I think F1 is excellence, so welcome to new drivers on competitive cars.

"I think appointing a third car to a young driver or to something new would be useful for the sport. Just look what Michael's return at Valencia would have meant. We must look ahead and try to do it."

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/78485

So maybe I was right...

and about the Senna comment.

[MrHahn]

Mclarens first, Toyotas last.



Praying for rain.

[Redliner]

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/78485

So maybe I was right...

and about the Senna comment.

Never saw that one..

[Nacho]

Never saw that one..

Honestly, I don't trust most anything that guy says. Especially since it seems like it was a one on one with Ayrton, and therefore hard to disprove.

Additionally, I agree with Williams about the 3-cars being a bad idea. McMerc/Ferrari could essentially lock out 1-6, taking all but 3 total championship points per race. They say it's to use new drivers, but let's be honest; given their claimed roster of Massa, Kimi, Schumi, and Alonso as potential drivers, who's going to get bumped to 'develop new talent' in a spare car?

Let's face it, Ferrari is a team that poaches talent from other teams that develop talent. It hurt them this year when the unexpected happened with Massa and they've been caught with their pants down. But honestly, you could give them 8 cars and they're still not going to put a new driver in any of them, opting instead to try to cherry pick proven drivers from other teams.

[DrDickAction]

Honestly, I don't trust most anything that guy says. Especially since it seems like it was a one on one with Ayrton, and therefore hard to disprove.

Additionally, I agree with Williams about the 3-cars being a bad idea. McMerc/Ferrari could essentially lock out 1-6, taking all but 3 total championship points per race. They say it's to use new drivers, but let's be honest; given their claimed roster of Massa, Kimi, Schumi, and Alonso as potential drivers, who's going to get bumped to 'develop new talent' in a spare car?

Let's face it, Ferrari is a team that poaches talent from other teams that develop talent. It hurt them this year when the unexpected happened with Massa and they've been caught with their pants down. But honestly, you could give them 8 cars and they're still not going to put a new driver in any of them, opting instead to try to cherry pick proven drivers from other teams.

Massa was pretty damn unproven when they gave him Rubens seat.

[Nacho]

Massa was pretty damn unproven when they gave him Rubens seat.

He still came from another team, one where he'd beaten a WDC. And he'd tested for Ferrari already at that point.

[DrDickAction]

He still came from another team, one where he'd beaten a WDC. And he'd tested for Ferrari already at that point.

Villeneuve - does not count.

[Redliner]

He still came from another team, one where he'd beaten a WDC. And he'd tested for Ferrari already at that point.

JV? Wait...who did he beat?

[mads]

He still came from another team, one where he'd beaten a WDC. And he'd tested for Ferrari already at that point.

I could beat JV

[mads]

hell Kubica technically beat JV after replacing him for three races vs the rest of the season for JV

[HighTachPres]

Autosport interviews Flava Flav
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/78516

Q. Are you confident you will win the case on September 21?
FB: It's not a question of confidence, it's a question of presenting our case, our defence. I feel really upset, really sad. What you have seen with the leak, everything was against Renault. Wherever it has come, it has caused big damage to Renault, and the members of Renault.

It's not just me and the drivers, it's the 500 to 600 people working for Renault, and making Renault think of not being part of this world any more.

Q. Why do you think Nelson Piquet crashed deliberately?
FB: Nelson has crashed 17 times.

Q. Why did you give him a drive for another year if he was so bad?
FB: I didn't have anybody else. I had an option to take Nelson after the 30th of September, and I didn't take it.

Q. What are your feelings towards Nelson and his father at the moment?
FB: I feel Nelsinho is a very spoiled guy. Every time he is racing it is because he owns the team as well. He is very fragile. We tried everything. What you want is only performance.

he knew the exact number right off the bat lolol

[kngrsll]

god, piquet is so fail

[DrDickAction]

god, piquet is so fail

it's like he said "Hmmm, there's going to be 6 extra seats next year, what can I do to absolutely, 100% guarantee I won't get any of them?"

[HighTachPres]

it's like he said "Hmmm, there's going to be 6 extra seats next year, what can I do to absolutely, 100% guarantee I won't get any of them?"

[MrHahn]

Villeneuve - does not count.

I could beat JV

Autosport interviews Flava Flav
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/78516




he knew the exact number right off the bat lolol

god, piquet is so fail

[vietlol]

Briatore: Piquets' stance not a surprise

By Jonathan Noble and Michele Lostia Saturday, September 12th 2009, 08:40 GMT

Flavio BriatoreRenault boss Flavio Briatore says it has been tough for his team to cope with the accusations levelled at them by former driver Nelson Piquet and his father - but he is not totally surprised at the way things have turned out.

Briatore believes that the race-fix claims levelled at him and his team, which he has denied and is taking legal action against the Piquets over, follows a pattern of besmirching that Piquet Sr carried throughout his F1 career.

One of his most famous outbursts came in a magazine interview when he was still driving, when the three-time champion accused Ayrton Senna of being gay and said that Nigel Mansell's wife was 'ugly'. Those remarks caused outrage at the time.

"We know Nelson's story, he's always run down everyone," explained Briatore at Monza. "Nelson drove for me and... Nelson is blackmailing, and that's what we have brought.

"It's very tough for Renault to have had these put downs from Nelsinho and from Piquet Sr, but then we know Piquet Sr. He has always denigrated everyone - starting from [Ayrton] Senna, to Mansell's wife, to everyone. That's what Piquet Sr has always done. I know him well because he raced for us, I know Sr better than Jr."

Briatore has also said that the complaints from Piquet Jr extended beyond pure racing terms - as he revealed he was also accused by the Brazilian of wrecking friendships he had.

"He [Nelsinho] has also heavily accused me of breaking his relationship with a friend of his. I don't want to be accused unfairly, so I want to say that I did it because Nelsinho's father asked me to," explained Briatore.

"Nelsinho used to live with this gentleman: the nature of their relationship is unknown. His father was very worried about the relationship Nelsinho used to have with this 50-year-old man. They used to live together, and his father asked me to intervene.

"I made this gentleman not come to races anymore, and I made Nelsinho move from Oxford to London in a building where I live, in order to keep him under control.

"I was asked to by his father, and now Nelsinho accuses me of having even taken his friends away from him - I don't know what kind of friends these are, but he accuses me of that."

Briatore's claims about Piquet come amid the surfacing of fresh details about the events of the day at Singapore and how he crashed his car on purpose.

In a second statement that Piquet supplied to the FIA at the office of investigative agency Quest in London on August 15, Piquet reveals that he was summoned into Briatore's office for the alleged meeting where the crash plan was discussed between 4pm and 5pm on race day.

He says the meeting did not last very long - and he was asked not to speak about what was discussed.

"In the course of the meeting, Briatore said very little," claimed Piquet in his FIA statement, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT. "As the meeting drew to a close, Mr. Symonds told me that I should not speak about the plan with anyone else and said that he would give me further instructions shortly. I believe the meeting in Mr Briatore's office lasted no more than ten minutes."

After claiming that Symonds later told him where to crash on the track, Piquet provided further evidence about how he deliberately caused the accident.

"After ensuring I was on the designated lap of the race, I deliberately lost control of my car on the exit to turn 17. I did this by pressing hard and early on the throttle.

"As I felt the back end of the car drifting out, I continued to press hard on the throttle, in the knowledge that this would lead to my car making heavy contact with the concrete wall on the far side of the track and thereby cause a crash necessitating the deployment of the safety car."

He added: "Once the back end of the car had begun to drift out, the only way of recovering control of the car and avoiding a contact with the concrete wall would have been to back off on the throttle.

"However, I did not back off the throttle to any material extent. Rather, I pressed hard on the throttle beyond the moment at which the back end started to drift out and, indeed, right up to and beyond the point of impact with the concrete wall."

Piquet's claims about how he caused the crash have been backed up by telemetry data of the incident, which forms part of the evidence against the Renault team at the World Motor Sport Council hearing that takes place in Paris on September 21.

whats pk been up to

[kngrsll]

piquet is too pretty to be straight anyways