Hamilton could be in trouble in Malaysia
April 1, 2009 by James Allen
A story has just appeared on the Auto Motor und Sport website in Germany, which could have explosive consequences for Lewis Hamilton and McLaren this weekend.
It is written by Michael Schmidt, who is one of the most respected journalists in F1.
The gist of the article is that Lewis Hamilton may have some explaining to do to the stewards, for what he said to them in Melbourne, which led to him deposing Jarno Trulli for third place.
The story is headlined “Did Hamilton tell the truth?â€.
“Possibly the exclusion of Jarno Trulli in the season opener in Melbourne must be reopened. Doubts have emerged whether the beneficiary Lewis Hamilton told the truth to the hearing.
“Trulli drove past Hamilton between the turns 4 and 5. The Toyota driver said that Hamilton so strongly deviated from the racing line that he thought Hamilton had a problem. Under these circumstances passing him would be permitted. Hamilton denied the allegation of intentionally slow driving. He changed line, because he was busy reading off the Safety Car instructions on the dashboard display.â€
But after examining this, the stewards have apparently discovered that at that point in time and on the circuit, the dash display would have been cleared and there was nothing more on the display, which could have diverted Hamilton.
The story continues: “The central issue however to be gleaned is whether the team instructed Hamilton to drive intentionally slowly. Hamilton answered in the negative. However after the race the following story circulated: Hamilton is said to have told a reporter that the team told him over radio to let Trulli through again,â€
The story then develops: “This contradiction brought the FIA officials to listen once again to the recordings of the radio traffic. Although there is no statement from official sources, speculation increases that the stewards from Melbourne will be reconvened in Malaysia.
“There are two scenarios. If Hamilton, from ignorance of the rules, let Trulli by, then Trulli would be given back his points and could be restored to third place. Hamilton would then be fourth. But if it should turn out that he did not tell the truth to the stewards, then there could be serious consequences, possibly exclusion from the results. Also in this case Trulli would be again third.â€
It sounds like Lewis will either end up losing a point, or all of his points. If the stewards find that he misled them, he may face carrying a suspended ban over his head for a while, or worse….
Source: James Allen's blog
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#201
Posted 02 April 2009 - 04:45 AM
#205
Posted 02 April 2009 - 06:20 AM
Trulli spells out what happened with Hamilton
April 2, 2009 by James Allen
I’m grateful to Robbie for sending me the link to YouTube where there is an extract of Toyota team radio, which gives a vivid picture of what it he experienced when Lewis Hamilton passed him in the final stages of that Australian GP. Trulli slows down to let him repass, but he doesn’t pass.
Hamilton is in front of the stewards, two of whom were Melbourne stewards, as I write this.
Some bits I pulled out from the Trulli recording which I find interesting - Trulli says that if he has a KERS car behind him he is ‘in trouble’ at the restart. The KERS made quite a difference to the racing and certainly helped with overtaking non-KERS cars. Once everyone has it of course the situation will be normalised, but for the moment there are some good opportunities for KERS cars.
When asked whether Hamilton passed him under the safety car, Trulli is not sure if the safety car had been deployed or not. This shows how much of a picture a driver has at a time like this. He knows that there were yellow flags, but hasn’t noticed any SC boards around the track.
Trulli spells out that he passed Hamilton, because he was going very slowly, but then he slowed to let him back past and Hamilton does not go past.
Very interesting stuff and I’m sure under the FIA’s new transparency rules regarding the stewards decisions, full radio extracts of this incident will be published on the FIA and F1.com websites once the decision has been reached. Another example of how the internet is bringing the fans and media closer to the sport and, critically, closer to understanding the sport!
Source: James Allen's blog
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 03:19 PM
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#208
Posted 02 April 2009 - 03:28 PM
i think the forum just turned 1 year old as of yesterday
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#209
Posted 02 April 2009 - 03:32 PM
i think the forum just turned 1 year old as of yesterday
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26k posts in the 1st year...
Damn, I was thinking about that the other day, can't believe I forgot it...
Thanks to You and Shiyan for making this thing happen!
#210
Posted 02 April 2009 - 03:41 PM
Sweet. Is that a good number for a forum? Def the most fun forum on the interwebs for me by a far margin.
I think it's pretty respectable for the amount of active people we have on here.
#211
Posted 02 April 2009 - 03:46 PM
Quote from ITV-F1.com:
Lewis Hamilton has been disqualified from the Australian Grand Prix and Jarno Trulli’s third place reinstated, following a fresh stewards’ inquiry in Malaysia on Thursday.
An FIA statement said that Hamilton and McLaren had provided "deliberately misleading" evidence to the stewards in Australia.
http://www.itv-f1.co...e.aspx?id=45424
And the FIA has published their findings on their web site. I'm hoping they start doing this on a regular basis. An explanation of their findings straight from the horse's mouth will certainly help the public understand the decisions that they make. Supposedly they are also going to be giving an explanation of the penalty given to Vettel in the next day or so.
Full FIA report: Click meh
#212
Posted 02 April 2009 - 03:52 PM
I'm more of a troll here than a regular participant, but I plan to start contributing more now that the season's going. I'm a friend of Skyliner IRL, and I'm a McLaren fan (though I sometimes wonder why...)
Quote from ITV-F1.com:
Lewis Hamilton has been disqualified from the Australian Grand Prix and Jarno Trulli’s third place reinstated, following a fresh stewards’ inquiry in Malaysia on Thursday.
An FIA statement said that Hamilton and McLaren had provided "deliberately misleading" evidence to the stewards in Australia.
http://www.itv-f1.co...e.aspx?id=45424
And the FIA has published their findings on their web site. I'm hoping they start doing this on a regular basis. An explanation of their findings straight from the horse's mouth will certainly help the public understand the decisions that they make. Supposedly they are also going to be giving an explanation of the penalty given to Vettel in the next day or so.
Full FIA report: Click meh
I'd love to see what they said about Vettel. Publishing why they make their decisions is 2 sided. On one hand, I'm glad we can hear their reasoning, but on the other, it'll open a new can of worms. Esp what the difference between a "racing incident" or not. There needs to be a clear understanding of that, b/c Rubens was barrel rolling everyone in his way!
#213
Posted 02 April 2009 - 06:07 PM
Damn, I was thinking about that the other day, can't believe I forgot it...
Thanks to You and Shiyan for making this thing happen!
yeah man, i need this... its a great outlet for F1 talk, i used to be able to shoot the shit with my friends, but i moved away
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i have a screen press
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#215
Posted 02 April 2009 - 07:13 PM
Damn, I was thinking about that the other day, can't believe I forgot it...
Thanks to You and Shiyan for making this thing happen!
and to think it all started bc some pricks moved the thread on OT
#216
Posted 02 April 2009 - 07:14 PM
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#217
Posted 02 April 2009 - 07:15 PM
Damn, I was thinking about that the other day, can't believe I forgot it...
Thanks to You and Shiyan for making this thing happen!
I think it's pretty respectable for the amount of active people we have on here.
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#218
Posted 02 April 2009 - 07:42 PM
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#219
Posted 02 April 2009 - 08:47 PM
you're still close to my heart kenbro
Hah. Yah, I'm glad this forum exists. I'd go crazy without it. And I consider a lot of you guys as friends...
Just so I can crash when I drop by your state
#220
Posted 02 April 2009 - 08:49 PM
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That's only 10% of the total posts
#222
Posted 02 April 2009 - 08:57 PM
i think the forum just turned 1 year old as of yesterday
HB F1-Crew Forums!
26k posts in the 1st year...
Yes, a sincere thanks to you guys for the work and bandwidth :biggthumb:Damn, I was thinking about that the other day, can't believe I forgot it...
Thanks to You and Shiyan for making this thing happen!
yeah man, i need this... its a great outlet for F1 talk, i used to be able to shoot the shit with my friends, but i moved away
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and to think it all started bc some pricks moved the thread on OT
Says yonson
2,488 posts (6.8 per day)
whore
Hah. Yah, I'm glad this forum exists. I'd go crazy without it. And I consider a lot of you guys as friends...
Just so I can crash when I drop by your state
#223
Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:18 PM
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but
#224
Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:26 PM
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#225
Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:32 PM
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