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#101 Redliner

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 09:23 PM

GREAT quote from Alonso...Alonso hit it on the fucking point...this is why F1 is losing fans. We need to be watching cars, flat out for an entire race. Not managing their tires/electric boost/power units...

https://soundcloud.c...versteer/alonso

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 05:21 PM

F1's current state of affairs is looking damn ugly. What in hell are they doing to the sport?

First double points and now standing restarts? Anything that fucks with the how results would turn out historically, pisses me off. This is not how you inject excitement into F1! And yet they still can't agree on any type of budget where a 1.5 sec difference in speed between the top and last team is $200 million dollars. Are you joking me?

Nevermind that drivers can't push to the limit for an entire race, that they're spending the entire time managing heat, tires and fuel. The only reason this year's racing has been good is because you have equal team-mates unlike at RB. But let's assume it was another RB year with Vettel running away with the WDC on top of the technical changes and penis nose...F1 would pretty much lose all viewership this season.

Fuck F1... :wtc:

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 10:39 PM

Cut the race down by a 1/3, no mandatory pitstops, no refueling, tire changes optional, cut communications to the wall, pit boards only...

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:47 AM

Car specification at an Event

The current restrictions to the parc fermé will now apply from the start of P3 instead of the start of qualifying.


wat

http://www.fia.com/n...cil-2014-munich

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:48 AM

I guess the forums are back.

#firekimi

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:07 PM

I guess the forums are back.
#firekimi


It's Kimi from 2008 all over again :hs:

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 04:35 PM

Glad he's ok, but this is hard to watch.

Driving styles aside and car dynamics aside, still shocked to see Vettel not adapting and catching up to mouth yet.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:09 PM

I guess the forums are back.

#firekimi

My bad :o

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 10:11 PM

My bad :o


#fireshi

In other news looks like the wdc fight is almost interesting again.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:37 AM

GREAT quote from Alonso...Alonso hit it on the fucking point...this is why F1 is losing fans. We need to be watching cars, flat out for an entire race. Not managing their tires/electric boost/power units...

https://soundcloud.c...versteer/alonso

People complain about the tires and stuff now, but we basically also all complained when Vettel did all but one lap on the super soft bridgestones (changed just to meet regulations on the last lap) because there was basically no strategy element.


Can't make people happy.

Personally, I like the strategy element of tires actually wearing out.

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 10:58 PM

F1 teams to Pirelli "Give us tires which fall apart, like Canada 2007, where Sato passed Alonso while driving a Super Aguri!"

*Pirelli supplies tires which wear out quick*

F1 drivers "OMG these tires are shit!!!"

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:03 PM

People complain about the tires and stuff now, but we basically also all complained when Vettel did all but one lap on the super soft bridgestones (changed just to meet regulations on the last lap) because there was basically no strategy element.


Can't make people happy.

Personally, I like the strategy element of tires actually wearing out.



F1 teams to Pirelli "Give us tires which fall apart, like Canada 2007, where Sato passed Alonso while driving a Super Aguri!"

*Pirelli supplies tires which wear out quick*

F1 drivers "OMG these tires are shit!!!"


I'm okay with 3+ Pitstops if it means letting the drivers go flat out, even if the tires only last 5-10 laps.

But you're right, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Had a conversation w/ the Bay Area crew this past weekend and R suggested getting rid of radios. That would encourage flat-out driving...that's a cheap but effective move IMO. But the sport as we know right now needs a lot of work as the appeal of the sport is being drastically reduced over time.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 09:58 PM

Getting rid of radios won't solve the tire saving. They'd just collect the data beforehand to work out the optimal use of the tire.

But tire saving in some shape or form has probably always been with F1, and motorsport in general.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:07 AM

Lauda's idea:

Lauda wants re-think after decade of F1 revolution
Niki Lauda has proposed a sweeping review of every rule change in formula one for the past decade.

For some, the all-new era of quiet turbo V6 engines was the final straw that broke the floodgates of fierce criticism.

The harshest critic has been Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo, who has called for an emergency meeting with F1's major stakeholders.

On Thursday, FIA president Jean Todt said he is happy to sit down for such a meeting, inviting other important voices including former F1 drivers to speak up.

The first to accept the invitation is Niki Lauda, an F1 legend and Mercedes' team chairman.

"We should draw up a list of all the rules that have been introduced or rewritten in the last ten years," the great Austrian told Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.

The German magazine says it counts 77 major technical and sporting rule changes since 2005, including to qualifying, points, tyres, spare cars, long-life engines, traction control, testing, KERS, DRS, bodywork, team orders, exhausts, diffusers, and many more.

Lauda said: "We should do a rule-by-rule check of what every change brought to us -- what made sense, what did not."


http://www.grandprix...ns/ns28497.html

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 04:34 PM

FIFA making Rosberg dump his World Cup lid was pretty ridiculous...hopefully this will be a decent race tho, Raikkonenn showing pace in P1 right now without the FRIC.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 04:50 PM

FIFA making Rosberg dump his World Cup lid was pretty ridiculous...hopefully this will be a decent race tho, Raikkonenn showing pace in P1 right now without the FRIC.

Same shit, different day. I don't think the pecking order will change one bit.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 05:28 PM

Turns out it was Hyundai doing the bitching! Because, you know, Hyundai and Mercedes are direct competitors.

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 05:29 PM

AND FP2 would indicate that not a damn thing has changed up front...except kimi being awake.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 12:18 AM

I don't want to give too much away, but as it's half way through the season I can confirm 50 per cent of our driver line-up for 2015 as Pastor is with us for next year,

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/313822/lotus-confirms-maldonado-for-2015-season/

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:16 PM

http://www.gpupdate....or-2015-season/

:rofl:


I'm genuinely surprised he's keeping the PDVSA $ for another year.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:17 PM

On the topic of shit drivers, there was a pretty good discussion on Reddit of Massa being even more deserving of a bad reputation than Crashtor

Perhaps this warrants a separate post, rather than just a comment thread.

Felipe Massa's collision history (not all his fault):
2002, Melbourne: collision/pile-up at first corner, involving Ralf Schumacher, Rubens Barrichello, Giancarlo Fisichella, Nick Heidfeld, Jenson Button, Olivier Panis, and Allan McNish
2002, Interlagos: collision with Mark Webber
2002, Monaco: collision with Enrique Bernoldi and head-on collision with wall due to brake failure
2002, Silverstone: no collision but spun 4 times
2002, Monza: collision with Pedro de la Rosa - worth noting that this earned Massa the first 10 place grid drop in F1 history, which resulted in Sauber subbing Heinz-Harald Frentzen in for him so they didn't have to take it
2002, Suzuka: collision with barrier after losing downforce due to turbulence from Jacques Villeneuve's car
2004, Montreal: collision with the wall after a suspension failure
2004, Indianapolis: collision with Cristiano da Matta, Christian Klien, Giorgio Pantano, and Gianmaria Bruni
2004, Spa: collision with Kimi Raikkonen at the start
2004, Monza: collision with Nick Heidfeld
2005, Imola: collided with David Coulthard twice
2005, Istanbul: collision with Ralf Schumacher and Nick Heidfeld
2006, Melbourne: collision with Christian Klien and Nico Rosberg
2007, Nürburgring: contact with Fernando Alonso as he overtook Massa
2008, Melbourne: collision with David Coulthard
2008, Valencia: almost-collision with Adrian Sutil due to unsafe release
2008, Marina Bay: driving away with fuel rig attached
2008, Fuji: collision with Lewis Hamilton and another one with Sébastien Bourdais at the pitlane exit
2009, Hungaroring: collision with suspension spring that had fallen from Rubens Barrichello's car in qualifying
2010, Catalunya: collision with Karun Chandhok
2010, Montreal: triple collision in a single corner with Vitantonio Liuzzi, followed by collision with Michael Schumacher
2010, Monza: collision with Lewis Hamilton
2010, Suzuka: collision with Vitantonio Liuzzi
2011, Monaco: collision with Lewis Hamilton
2011, Silverstone: collision with Lewis Hamilton
2011, Monza: collision with Mark Webber
2011, Marina Bay: collision with Lewis Hamilton
2011, Suzuka: collision with Lewis Hamilton
2011, Buddh: collision with kerb in qualifying and collision with Lewis Hamilton during the race, followed by another collision with kerb
2012, Melbourne: collision with Bruno Senna
2012, Valencia: collision with Kamui Kobayashi
2012, Hockenheim: collision with Daniel Ricciardo
2012, Abu Dhabi: collision with Mark Webber, resulting in spin
2013, Monaco: head-on collision with wall
2014, Melbourne: collision with Kamui Kobayashi
2014, Shanghai: collision with Fernando Alonso
2014, Montreal: collision with Sergio Perez
2014, Silverstone: collision with Kimi Raikkonen
2014, Hockenheim: collision with Kevin Magnussen

For reference, here is Pastor Maldonado's collision record (not all his fault):
2011, Monaco: collision with Lewis Hamilton
2011, Spa: collision with Lewis Hamilton during qualifying, earning him a five-place grid penalty
2012, Melbourne: collision with wall
2012, Monaco: collision with Sergio Perez during Saturday practice, earning him a ten-place grid penalty, followed by a collision in the first corner of the first lap of the race with Pedro de la Rosa
2012, Montreal: collision with Lewis Hamilton
2012, Valencia: collision with Lewis Hamilton
2012, Silverstone: collision with Sergio Perez
2012, Spa: collision with Timo Glock
2012, Buddh: collision with Kamui Kobayashi
2012, Interlagos: collision with Romain Grosjean
2013, Monaco: collision with Giedo van der Garde, followed by race-ending collision with Max Chilton
2014, Sepang: collision with Jules Bianchi
2014, Bahrain: collision with Esteban Gutierrez
2014, Silverstone: collision with Esteban Gutierrez



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:11 PM

On the topic of shit drivers, there was a pretty good discussion on Reddit of Massa being even more deserving of a bad reputation than Crashtor

38crashes/12years = 3.17crashes/year
14crashes/3years = 4.67crashes/year

Pastor still wins. That being said, Felipe has definitely upped his productivity in this area since 2010. He's 16 to Pastor's 14 since the start of the '11 season.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:05 PM

He's 16 to Pastor's 14 since the start of the '11 season.


exactamente

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 04:57 AM

On the topic of shit drivers, there was a pretty good discussion on Reddit of Massa being even more deserving of a bad reputation than Crashtor


2006 Bahrain he spun and nearly took out Alonso.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 09:27 PM

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