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Posted 02 May 2008 - 01:40 AM
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 10:57 PM
the article doesnt really offer much info
i've been having this argument with my roommate forever
Posted 02 May 2008 - 11:10 PM
Reaction time is a huge part of athletics...think of a start of a 100m sprint. Obviously a F1 driver has world class reactions.It really doesn't. I got into this argument today after sending this to a coworker...and he breaks sports down into 2 things: physical attributes and mental attributes. And of course, there's that extra edge that some have, called talent.
I think we can all agree, that given enough time and practice, we can all do great things. Correct? So what gives professionals that edge, and gives the top players/drivers their "edge" over us mere mortals. This is my definition of talent.
He says that the 'natural given' physical attributes, like jumping, throwing, running are not needed for racing, unlike Football, Hockey...etc. My counter is that in racing, you have to be extremely fit to produce results, otherwise you suck. He counters that anyone can workout, and become fit, and that is developed, and not a talent. I also counter, that racing requires massive mental attributes since it's highly intellectual and it requires great hand to eye coordination. He agrees there, but says this can be developed, and is not talent.
Thoughts?
Posted 02 May 2008 - 11:18 PM
Reaction time is a huge part of athletics...think of a start of a 100m sprint. Obviously a F1 driver has world class reactions.
Also, I don't know if it's muscle control or muscle memory, but being able to consistently take lines around blind corners is some kind of attribute that goes beyond trained brain function. Like how a hitter shouldn't technically have time to think about a fastball...he has to predict it'll be a hittable pitch and his arms do the rest.
Posted 03 May 2008 - 07:06 AM
Did you punch him in the throat too? Because you should have.Good article, I sent that to a guy at work who I've had this discussion with a few times.
Posted 03 May 2008 - 11:57 PM
The physical and mental aspect of racing can be developed to a degree, but talent is what separates successful drivers from the rest, and that can't be developed nomatter how hard you tryIt really doesn't. I got into this argument today after sending this to a coworker...and he breaks sports down into 2 things: physical attributes and mental attributes. And of course, there's that extra edge that some have, called talent.
I think we can all agree, that given enough time and practice, we can all do great things. Correct? So what gives professionals that edge, and gives the top players/drivers their "edge" over us mere mortals. This is my definition of talent.
He says that the 'natural given' physical attributes, like jumping, throwing, running are not needed for racing, unlike Football, Hockey...etc. My counter is that in racing, you have to be extremely fit to produce results, otherwise you suck. He counters that anyone can workout, and become fit, and that is developed, and not a talent. I also counter, that racing requires massive mental attributes since it's highly intellectual and it requires great hand to eye coordination. He agrees there, but says this can be developed, and is not talent.
Thoughts?
Posted 08 May 2008 - 10:59 PM
Posted 09 May 2008 - 12:23 AM
You've obviously never seen a 'natural' driver vs someone who's just practiced alot.It really doesn't. I got into this argument today after sending this to a coworker...and he breaks sports down into 2 things: physical attributes and mental attributes. And of course, there's that extra edge that some have, called talent.
I think we can all agree, that given enough time and practice, we can all do great things. Correct? So what gives professionals that edge, and gives the top players/drivers their "edge" over us mere mortals. This is my definition of talent.
He says that the 'natural given' physical attributes, like jumping, throwing, running are not needed for racing, unlike Football, Hockey...etc. My counter is that in racing, you have to be extremely fit to produce results, otherwise you suck. He counters that anyone can workout, and become fit, and that is developed, and not a talent. I also counter, that racing requires massive mental attributes since it's highly intellectual and it requires great hand to eye coordination. He agrees there, but says this can be developed, and is not talent.
Thoughts?
Posted 09 May 2008 - 02:16 PM
You've obviously never seen a 'natural' driver vs someone who's just practiced alot.
There's a pretty significant difference. You think Lewis Hamilton beat everyone in karting from essentially day 1 because he practiced more? You think Kimi practices more than Massa to be better?
Posted 09 May 2008 - 02:35 PM
Talent. I said that's what gives Kimi/LH that extra edge...
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