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[MrBucket]

Oh and congrats on sixth place Ferrari. What a shit box.

They fucked up strategy and not being able to stay away from walls quite a bit.

[Shi]

Hopefully Button does not get a penalty

edit: just read on autosport that stewards decided no action is needed

[Shi]

This was comedy gold

[TimzSI]

They fucked up strategy and not being able to stay away from walls quite a bit.

Or they were attempting to overdrive the car.

[AErrorist]

of course the 1 race my DVR doesn't record is the one my driver wins, still excited though!

[TimzSI]

By far the best race of his career. I don't like saying it, but I love the team so, yah, whatever.

He was just as stoked as he was in Hungary 06...maybe.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

What a race.. Montreal never disappoints.

[MrHahn]

What a race.. Montreal never disappoints.

What a thread, watching the moaning turn into astonishment as the race finished

I thought the F1 couldn't beat Le Mans today, but I think it did.

Schuey's drive

Button driving like a boss though - 100% deserved the win, even if people do think he cut off Jesus

Someone's got to have a gif if Kobayashi dorifoing it at the wall of champions in quali?

[Skyliner]

Most of the douchebags didn't finish.

[Redliner]

Most of the douchebagettes didn't finish.

Fixed. F1C learned that one in Montreal

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Fixed. F1C learned that one in Montreal

Who?

[DrDickAction]

Who?

The douchebaguettes.

[yonson]

Fixed. F1C learned that one in Montreal

and

[Redliner]

I just realized something...in the last 2 races...the only driver geniunely as quick or quicker during the race has been Jenson Button. Maybe he'll be the one to beat Vettel

[kngrsll]

Button has really come around... i like the guy more and more

[vietlol]

Fred was quicker in Monaco

[Nacho]

Fred was quicker in Monaco

Jens had the best tires at the red flag though.

[Shi]

Well if getting rid of off throttle diffuser blow is going to peg back RedBull's advantage then I'm all for it

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

Well if getting rid of off throttle diffuser blow is going to peg back RedBull's advantage then I'm all for it

I think RBR, Renault and McLaren will be hit the hardest from the rule change.

[TimzSI]

Really? Macca ran without it early in the year/testing. I think they might have a better baseline than most.

[DrDickAction]

I think RBR, Renault and McLaren will be hit the hardest from the rule change.

RBR had an almost unnoticeable off-throttle-flatulence, so I'm wondering if there's is the least effective or most efficient. Renault, Macca, and Merc were all extremely loud.

[DrDickAction]

Really? Macca ran without it early in the year/testing. I think they might have a better baseline than most.

Yeah, exactly, they ran it in testing when they were 3 seconds off pace.

[Nacho]

Yeah, exactly, they ran it in testing when they were 3 seconds off pace.

No, early in the season they were using the octopus box exhaust or whatever that tried to throw exhaust EVERYWHERE.

If anything, it was a much more radical blown diffuser than anyone else's.

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[Redliner]

Can someone explain to me how Mclaren/Microsoft can build an ECU that can ban Traction Control, but still manage to allow enough tuning to allow the off/open throttle to happen?

[Shi]

Can someone explain to me how Mclaren/Microsoft can build an ECU that can ban Traction Control, but still manage to allow enough tuning to allow the off/open throttle to happen?

Just a guess, but I think to build in true traction control, the ECU needs to be able to monitor wheel rotation speeds. If you eliminate the possibility of that then you've eliminated intelligent traction control.

Perhaps the ECU is still able to monitor engine speeds and teams might be able to program in how fast engine revs are allowed to ramp up, and they might have a few different mappings to suit different amounts of grip level, but it would only be a dumb form of traction control.

As for createing the off throttle exhaust blow, my guess is that rather than closing off a butterfly valve to reduce the intake air like in regular cars, they could just seriously retard the ignition timing while still allowing in the same amount of air and injecting the same amount of fuel, so that the combustion starts when the exhaust ports are open. Result is that the engine isn't producing any torque but still blowing out the same amount of gas.

That wastes a lot of fuel so you can't always be doing that during the race, but I can imagine say Red Bull perfecting it to such a degree so that during qualifying fuel flow is constant and the amount of torque is purely based on ignition timing.

Not sure if that is possible, Yonson would be the guy to ask

The FIA has asked teams not to blow more than 10% gas at off throttle but I'm interested to see how they would enforce that. To start with there's got to be some variation in exhaust gas output, even at say maximum RPM, depending on atmospheric conditions and perhaps engine load? Also, say teams create a small mechanical device to prevent the throttle pedal ever reaching fully off, and at 5% throttle input (which is the minimum that the mechanical device would limit throttle input to), you still have a lot of exhuast gas creation? While for the FIA test you just remove the mechanical stop, and at 0% throttle input there is indeed only 10% exhaust flow?