F1 Crew 2011 Season Thread
#701
Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:06 AM
However, the COTA is a cluster, and the whole thing is stupidly convoluted for no good reason.
#702
Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:10 AM
#F1 Spoke to Bernie about COTA's counter offer, he didn't sound too impressed. People don't usually send him back rewritten contracts...
I'm not getting my hopes up for a race in TX next year...
#703
Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:55 AM
it was down to the last rally... 8 points between Loeb and Mikko...
Mikko's engine failed day one
Loeb crashed out on the road section between stages day two
It would've been a 3 man fight on the last rally, but Ogier had engine failure the rally before while leading that put him just out of contention.. it would've been 3 people within 8 points...
and DDA, I torrent the rally's... ESPN in Europe had 30 minute daily coverage + power stage coverage... so it's 4 downloads, 2 on the last day...
A head on with a tourist, no less.
#704
Posted 29 November 2011 - 08:45 AM
How long before he throws in the towel?
It should be good to watch 6 World Champs racing at once though.
#705
Posted 29 November 2011 - 08:47 AM
#706
Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:00 AM
Makes sense, I suppose.
#708
Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:04 PM
#709
Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:50 PM
So...Kimi's racing for Renault for two years.
How long before he throws in the towel?
It should be good to watch 6 World Champs racing at once though.
#710
Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:52 PM
#711
Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:19 PM
Also funny how much Alonso is handling Massa, while Kimi couldn't.Funny how Raikkonen and Alonso have effectively swapped seats
#712
Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:43 PM
Also funny how much Alonso is handling Massa, while Kimi couldn't.
also funny how Kimi won the title first year at Ferrari while Alonso's has been 2nd and 4th in the championship
additionally funny how Kimi is the only ferrari driver to win the title in the past 7 seasons
and before you say "only cause Massa moved over"... I do remember last year a certain radio transmission along the lines of "Alonso is faster than you... do you understand"...
#713
Posted 29 November 2011 - 05:24 PM
im curious to know the value of his contract. i think that will tell us a little bit about his desires
#714
Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:38 PM
#715
Posted 29 November 2011 - 08:41 PM
It was bullshit both times.also funny how Kimi won the title first year at Ferrari while Alonso's has been 2nd and 4th in the championship
additionally funny how Kimi is the only ferrari driver to win the title in the past 7 seasons
and before you say "only cause Massa moved over"... I do remember last year a certain radio transmission along the lines of "Alonso is faster than you... do you understand"...
Alonso and Hamilton were both more deserving of the championship in 07.
#716
Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:00 PM
You could also say that Massa was more deserving in '08. Fact is rarely do people remember who was more 'deserving'. There is no championship for effortIt was bullshit both times.
Alonso and Hamilton were both more deserving of the championship in 07.
#717
Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:21 PM
pre & post spring-to-face massa are not the same driver.Also funny how much Alonso is handling Massa, while Kimi couldn't.
He is now better in the rain, but much slower in every other condition.
#718
Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:24 PM
#719
Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:37 PM
Not apologizing for kimi...he was nowhere near the driver from 2008+. Massa simply isn't a good measuring stick.Massa's accident is a convenient excuse for Kimi apologists, we see how he does next year
#720
Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:28 AM
Ferrari had Kimi move for Massa in 08 just like Massa moved for Alonso and Kimi in other years.You could also say that Massa was more deserving in '08. Fact is rarely do people remember who was more 'deserving'. There is no championship for effort
I can only remember one time in 2008 when Hekki let Lewis through, and it was a pretty huge speed differential at the time.
#721
Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:14 AM
I was thinking the fuel hose gaffe at SG. But anyway, Im just saying that this ain't grade school. No points awarded for effort.Ferrari had Kimi move for Massa in 08 just like Massa moved for Alonso and Kimi in other years.
I can only remember one time in 2008 when Hekki let Lewis through, and it was a pretty huge speed differential at the time.
#723
Posted 30 November 2011 - 04:47 AM
And Hamilton had the DNF in China due to the team leaving him out on the wets too long.I was thinking the fuel hose gaffe at SG. But anyway, Im just saying that this ain't grade school. No points awarded for effort.
Bad luck and being gifted positions from your teammate are different.
#724
Posted 30 November 2011 - 05:22 AM
wasn't massa penalized the next race too?And Hamilton had the DNF in China due to the team leaving him out on the wets too long.
Bad luck and being gifted positions from your teammate are different.
#725
Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:12 AM
And Hamilton had the DNF in China due to the team leaving him out on the wets too long.
Bad luck and being gifted positions from your teammate are different.
Are you really comparing Kimi to Massa? In terms of raw speed, c'mon...Kimi was the closest challenger to Schumi back in the day. The guy, stepped out of a handful of car races and scored points when he hopped into a Sauber. He's easily a match for the top drivers in F1...really, you just gotta keep his motivation up and you've got someone that will challenge/race Alonso/LH/Button/Vettel. Suzuka comes to mind when he came from last to first...back in the era when it was impossible to pass...
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