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#1 _R_

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 01:27 AM

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:14 AM

Pretty clear to see that Fred, infact has this.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:04 PM

Worst quali session ever. :weaksauce:

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 05:37 PM

Worst quali session ever. :weaksauce:

That was a very weird quali. And yet somehow RB forgot to fill Webbers car.
What was it, 4 drivers put in a time for Q3?

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 05:47 PM

That was a very weird quali. And yet somehow RB forgot to fill Webbers car.
What was it, 4 drivers put in a time for Q3?

All but 3 put a proper Q3 time. Ham, Rai, Alo, Ros, Mas, Gro, Ric all went for softs and did a lap. Button cruised around on hards to set a time. Vet and Hulk only did a out lap.

Also, Web starting P22 due to not having fuel left in the car. Bowser is not impressed.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:15 PM

Vettel is going to learn how much it sucks to not have an open track on lap 1. Hopefully he makes it clean through turn 1.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:26 PM

Just watched quali, :wtf: F1, you need to do something about this shit, at least give them teams free tyres for Q1 and Q2, to make it a little interesting...

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:19 AM

Vettel is going to learn how much it sucks to not have an open track on lap 1. Hopefully he makes it clean through turn 1.


will be interesting to see how his relatively low straight-line speed affects his progress

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:41 AM

holy shit that was close...





for 3rd. :o

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:41 AM

called it

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:17 AM

Damn, thought Vettel was gonna get Hammy there at the end...

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:40 AM

Amazing finish to the race.

I don't mind boring qualifying if the races finish like this one.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 02:38 PM

Man what a charge from Vettel at the end. If he didn't out brake himself at that turn after passing the caterham I think he would've got Lewis.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:27 AM

Man what a charge from Vettel at the end. If he didn't out brake himself at that turn after passing the caterham I think he would've got Lewis.


Nah. About 1/2 lap before that, those tires were going off bad. You could see him fighting oversteer/understeer all at once. Still, a helluva charge regardless of new tires or not. But those softs go off so quickly...

Among TX crew, there's a big debate about how Pirelli is "enhancing" the show. Is it artificial? Or is it real? I'd like to believe the latter b/c everyone's getting the same tires. But on the flip side, these guys are clearly managing tires now when F1 should be an outright sprint, driving to the limits. Seeing Vettel push hard like that at the end...makes me wonder if Pirelli could work on the compounds just a bit more. At the very least, get rid of the marbling so that drivers can go offline...

Regardless for me, it was a good race!

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:36 AM

Was the racing better in 2010 when one set of tyres could do an entire gp distance? I dunno. I think DRS is a bigger problem because some places it makes it too easy and others its useless, so they should work on that more.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:40 PM

Helluva race. From the 4 car train over the first few laps to the pit rotations to the vettel charge, I was entertained basically the whole time.

I don't think tire management is falsifying the show at all. Formula 1 has never been a japanese time attack - there's been managing of engines over a race distance when they weren't rev limited, managing of fuel consumption when refueling was prohibited, etc.

The DRS is way more gimmicky to me. At least with the tires there's multiple strategies and gambles to make - with DRS, the only strategy is stay 2 seconds ahead.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:50 PM

Helluva race. From the 4 car train over the first few laps to the pit rotations to the vettel charge, I was entertained basically the whole time.

I don't think tire management is falsifying the show at all. Formula 1 has never been a japanese time attack - there's been managing of engines over a race distance when they weren't rev limited, managing of fuel consumption when refueling was prohibited, etc.

The DRS is way more gimmicky to me. At least with the tires there's multiple strategies and gambles to make - with DRS, the only strategy is stay 2 seconds ahead.


those are all very valid points. I'll bring that up next time TX crew talks about this...:bowdown:

I'd feel much better if DRS was allowed to be used anywhere by the driver for a timed amount along, similar to KERS, I'd appreciate it more. It would definitely allow even more creative use of strategy. Having said that, twice Alonso tripped the DRS marker within a second of the first car, passed the car in front before they got to the DRS activation and was allowed DRS down the straightaway while the following car got no DRS. Either that was fantastic dumb luck or some VERY clever planning by his engineers, him or both. :bowdown:

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 09:13 PM

those are all very valid points. I'll bring that up next time TX crew talks about this...:bowdown:

I'd feel much better if DRS was allowed to be used anywhere by the driver for a timed amount along, similar to KERS, I'd appreciate it more. It would definitely allow even more creative use of strategy. Having said that, twice Alonso tripped the DRS marker within a second of the first car, passed the car in front before they got to the DRS activation and was allowed DRS down the straightaway while the following car got no DRS. Either that was fantastic dumb luck or some VERY clever planning by his engineers, him or both. :bowdown:

looked like both times he had the speed to blow by without the DRS, he timed it to get by before the straight and then use DRS to further boost the advantage.




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