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[vietlol]

I hope Ferrari are more subtle this weekend if it comes to it!

[vietlol]

If it had been agreed before the race that Alonso was the driver Ferrari wished to take maximum points from the race, then there would have been an arrangement in place to switch the cars around if Massa found himself ahead. It doesn’t appear to be the case here and anyway I doubt whether Massa would have agreed to that.

However he would have agreed to a system for establishing who is the faster driver. It seems that there was an agreement in place about the size of lead and a mechanism for showing who is faster, as a basis for Ferrari to make a decision. This may be a legacy of incidents earlier in the season, such as Australia, where Alonso was held up by Massa and the team took no action.

Judging from the messages to Massa from his engineer Rob Smedley, it seems that the notion of a three second lead was important, Smedley pointed out to Massa that he had three seconds in hand over his team mate at one point and described that as important.

But Alonso soon ate into that lead, getting it down to below a second, which was his way of proving that he was faster. Faced with Massa’s inability to match the pace and having lost the three second lead, the team had the evidence it needed to tell Massa that Alonso was faster than him, which was clearly the agreed etiquette.

I’ve been researching this a bit over the last few days and this kind of arrangement is quite common within teams.

http://www.jamesalle...e-key-decisions


interesting twist, the radio chatter between Massa and Smedley early on in the race seems to back this up

[vietlol]

It's like they all have something in common

[vietlol]

Itsa mee, Pat Fry

[vietlol]

Weather forecast seems to be constantly changing but doesnt look like we will get a wet race, some wet practice though.

[yonson]

I hope both Ferrari's blow the fuck up...

[SeaMack99]

Really looking forward to this GP. Will be watching at work and setting my Sky box to record

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

I hope both Ferrari's blow the fuck up...

I hope you shut the fuck up

[_R_]

looking to be another ferrari/redbull weekend...

[vietlol]

looking to be another ferrari/redbull weekend...

Haven't heard that one since about the first race

Amazing how you dont notice things until they are pointed out to you, but its pretty clear to see the RBR front wing flex compared to others. Ferrari has a bit of a flex but nowhere near as drastic.

[SeaMack99]

Haven't heard that one since about the first race

Amazing how you dont notice things until they are pointed out to you, but its pretty clear to see the RBR front wing flex compared to others. Ferrari has a bit of a flex but nowhere near as drastic.

i've also noticed this too. huge thread about it here http://www.f1technic...c...?f=6&t=8764

[DrDickAction]

I hope both Ferrari's blow the fuck up...

I hope you shut the fuck up

I hope alonso's radio button breaks so we don't have to hear him moaning anyways.

[Nacho]

I hope alonso's radio button breaks so we don't have to hear him moaning anyways.

I hope Massa's breaks so he doesn't hear the order to let Alonso through again.

[Redliner]

i've also noticed this too. huge thread about it here http://www.f1technic...c...?f=6&t=8764

That thread.

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

That thread.

a lot of pure speculation, but one guy did bring an interesting photo from test season to light...

[Redliner]

So why's it only now that they protest about the wings? Martin Whitmarsh has it best: Don't worry about protesting their cars, just make our cars faster than theirs.

[cASe SenSiTive]

I hope both Ferrari's blow the fuck up...

I hope it's another Ferrari 1-2. Button and Webber after that. Then Vettel and Black Jesus take each other out and get into a slap-fight.

[cASe SenSiTive]

It's like they all have something in common
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[vietlol]

[Nacho]

lolwut

[yonson]

I hope you shut the fuck up

Ok, I really only hope Emotardo blows up...

[yonson]

I just realized something while watching F1 debrief on SPEED, now that Schumi is no longer at Ferrari I actually like the guy...

[vietlol]

I really like Schumi too now because he cant even get anywhere near barbie.

[vietlol]

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petrov beating kubi is interesting

[Dr. Jimmmah!]

the only way this is a race tomorrow is if vettel drives right into webber at the start and they break aero bits to slow them down 1.2s