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#1 Dr. Jimmmah!

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 02:34 PM

We'll still continue race-by-race threads and AV bet threads if you guys want. This thread is for inter-race news/discussion.

Red Bull threatens Brawn GP protest

By Michele Lostia and Jonathan Noble Tuesday, March 24th 2009, 13:59 GMT

Red Bull Racing has said it will protest rival Brawn GP over the design of its diffuser if the team's current design passes scrutineering at Melbourne on Thursday.

Questions over the design of the diffusers have surfaced since Williams and Toyota appeared to exploit the wording of the regulations to allow themselves a taller design than the rules originally intended.

But the debate has stepped up a gear after Brawn GP's new car, which features a unique twin-deck concept, has dominated pre-season testing times.

With the matter still not settled, and talk of a possible protest having surfaced in recent days, Red Bull's advisor Helmut Marko has now confirmed his team will object to the design if it is unchanged and given the all-clear by scrutineers.

Speaking to Gazzetta dello Sport about the design of the Brawn diffuser, Marko said: "It's illegal: we'll make a protest on Thursday if the component isn't modified to conform to the regulations, because that diffuser guarantees a five-tenths-advantage per lap. Seven teams are certain it's illegal."

FIA president Max Mosley revealed earlier this week that he expected the matter to reach a head in Australia, having received complaints from at least one team about the diffuser design.

"If there had been more time before the detailed objections to the system were sent in, I would probably have sent it to the FIA Court of Appeal before Australia," Mosley told the Daily Telegraph.

"And actually I have given thought to that this week. But there isn't time. It wouldn't be fair. I think the thing will probably come to some sort of a head in Australia."

As AUTOSPORT's technical analysis of the BGP001 car revealed earlier this month, the diffuser is a unique double-decker design where the U-shaped centre section becomes the lower deck of the set-up, rather than the roof.

Brawn GP was unavailable for comment on Tuesday night in Melbourne, but Rubens Barrichello told Gazzetta dello Sport that he was unmoved by the controversy about the team's diffuser.

"I wasn't bothered by the fact that everyone took for granted that [Bruno] Senna was replacing me, so do you think I'm bothered by the fact that my car is different from the others?" he said.

"We've read the rule book differently, and the result of that can be seen by everyone."

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/73876

and so it begins...

#2 Dazed1

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 04:08 PM

I cant wait :cool:

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 04:15 PM

thursday :cool:

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 04:34 PM

Of all the weekends to go to vegas :cool:

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 05:42 PM

Of all the weekends to go to vegas :cool:


just place a bet on those "brawn GP" guys and come home happy :wtc:

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 05:43 PM

Of all the weekends to go to vegas :cool:

The sports betting places will have the race on.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 05:51 PM

Of all the weekends to go to vegas :cool:

im pretty sure the hofbrauhaus shows all the races, plus they have great beer too.

i'd call to make sure they're showing the race: (702) 853-BEER

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 06:32 PM

just place a bet on those "brawn GP" guys and come home happy :D

:eek5: this is a fantastic idea.

20$ on brawn and then 20$ on whomever else has good odds.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 06:33 PM

Oh, and I don't think I'll get to watch it live...going out that saturday night and all.

a) DVR ftw
b) shit, how am I going to bet on it if I don't want to know who wins until I get home.
c) Arrrhhhh!!!!

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 06:34 PM

wish I has a slingbox.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:20 PM

2 more days of work :eek5:

By the way they're forecasting winds from thursday onward in Melbourne

Iblewisflyingtothemoon

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:24 PM

Just saw this!

Schumacher back for Ferrari in Melbourne
06:09 AEST Wed Mar 25 2009


Seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher is expected to be back in a Formula One pit on race day for the first time since he retired in 2006 when the season begins this Sunday in Australia.

Schumacher's manager Willi Weber has confirmed the 40-year-old will be in Ferrari's pit at the Melbourne Grand Prix circuit to help advise the engineers as his former team's secret weapon.

"It wasn't so important to have him in the pits for the last two years, but with the new rule changes, Michael can help the engineers understand the car better," Weber told German tabloid Bild.

"That is his task, it will be crucial to communicate with the engineers.

"They evaluate the data and Michael's experience will be very important for that."

Schumacher is already on his way to Australia and will then fly to Malaysia for the GP in Kuala Lumpur on April 5 in a bid to help Ferrari drivers Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen.



More :eek5:

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:06 PM

sounds good to me

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:09 PM

Just saw this!




More :eek5:



FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU having shumi there = Kimi will phail :D

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:10 PM

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU having shumi there = Kimi will phail :eek5:


They're basically saying Kimi & Massa have no idea how to setup a car and will need MS to do everything for them...what confidence they give KR/FM.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:46 PM

They're basically saying Kimi & Massa have no idea how to setup a car and will need MS to do everything for them...what confidence they give KR/FM.


Has Schumi even driven this new car? I thought he was just evaluating last year's car with slicks.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:34 PM

:eek5:

:D guise

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 11:36 PM

I hope http://f1stream.goog....com/f1itv.html works

else someone needs to find a streaming solution!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:33 AM

Yeah the switch the BBC has really screwed the streaming - unless you find a speed stream but I dont know whether they air practice/quali live or not?

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:03 AM

:eek5:

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:04 AM

IF SPEED goes by last years standards, they air FP2, SP1 live and delay Quali by 5 or 10 mins, then the race is live

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:08 AM

Yup, looks like those asswipes are sticking to the same BS :eek5: no FP1, Inside GP at midnight, FP2 starting at 0030...

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 12:03 PM

:rofl:

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:10 PM

Coulthard to be Red Bull's reserve

By Jonathan Noble Wednesday, March 25th 2009, 05:20 GMT

David Coulthard will be called up for a surprise Formula 1 comeback if either of Red Bull Racing's current drivers are unable to race in the first few events of the season, AUTOSPORT can reveal.

Red Bull Racing had hoped to sign up Brendon Hartley as its reserve driver already, but the New Zealander has not yet been granted the mandatory superlicence that he needs.

Although the team is hopeful that it can sort out Hartley's paperwork in the next few weeks, it has opted to instead use Coulthard as its reserve driver for the first few flyaway races.

Coulthard retired from F1 racing at the end of last season but has retained an advisory role with Red Bull Racing, alongside his commentary commitments with the BBC.

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/73884

DC back if seb vet or webbo can't race.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:23 PM

odds ranges for Australia GP win:

Jens 3-4:1
Fred 3-6:1
Kimi 4-6:1
Felipe 5-7:1
Rubens 6-8:1
Lewis 6-10:1
vettel: 18-28:1
nelson: 66-100:1
fisi: 250-500:1


looks like the bookies think jens is the favorite.




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