That's hilarious.
And good sport to Jenson for wearing it.
*2010 Grand Prix of Germany* ~Hockenheim~
#77
Posted 27 July 2010 - 01:13 AM
Team orders are one thing, team orders that take a win away from a driver who almost died in your car a year ago are a completely different level of scumbaggery .
No doubt... total BS, if Emotardo was faster he should have passed on track, you can't just call to the pits for everyone else in front of you that's slower and whine to get them to pull over...
#78
Posted 27 July 2010 - 01:14 AM
Again, if he's so phenomenal, why can't he just pass people on track like Sebastian, Mark, Lewis and Jenson?
because he'd rather be the whiny ass bitch he is, that's why...
#79
Posted 27 July 2010 - 01:18 AM
I completely understand Ferrari's decision to do a switch-a-roo on the positions as their WDC hopes are already slim. My problem is with this ridiculous rule that says there is to be no team orders in F1. Yes it sucks for Felipe, and this is coming from one of maybe two true supporters of him on this forum, but the goal is to win both titles for Ferrari. Sure Fred gets credit for the WDC, but so does Ferrari for providing the car and supporting team that helps him achieve the WCC. If they were even (or close to even) on points I don't think they would have felt the need to do this position change. I'd like to think that if the roles were reversed any other Ferrari driver would play the team role and do what is best for the team outcome. Hell, even the oh-so-selfish Schumacher played a supporting role to that prick Irvine once...
Furthermore, nobody seemed to have a problem with it when Kimi was allowed to pass to win the WDC...
Do I think Fred could have won this one fair and square? Not without a high-risk pass.
When Kimi passed him it was during pit rotation, and wasn't the team blatantly outright telling him Kimi is faster, do you understand, not to mention it was at the very last race and it decided the WDC... I mean for fuck sake they could have a predetermined "code" for this like Felipe baby go to G7 or some shit like that...
#80
Posted 27 July 2010 - 01:39 AM
Would that make it any better for you? Wouldn't make a damn difference to me.When Kimi passed him it was during pit rotation, and wasn't the team blatantly outright telling him Kimi is faster, do you understand, not to mention it was at the very last race and it decided the WDC... I mean for fuck sake they could have a predetermined "code" for this like Felipe baby go to G7 or some shit like that...
#81
Posted 27 July 2010 - 01:44 AM
Would that make it any better for you? Wouldn't make a damn difference to me.
Nope I think it's bullshit
#82
Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:38 AM
#83
Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:51 AM
I always thought Kimi's title was a bunch of shit because he got handed places at both China and Brazil by his teammate. Both Hamilton and Fernando deserved the title more that year.Furthermore, nobody seemed to have a problem with it when Kimi was allowed to pass to win the WDC...
#84
Posted 27 July 2010 - 02:54 AM
Jenson stayed out on the softs for a LONG time after the rest had gone in for the hards. He passed Webber in the pits due to his longer first stint, then was never really challenged by the RBR car because of the oiling issue. But Webber never really even put his car into a position to attack Jenson due to the oil consumption issue..Webber was all over Lewis after he got passed. I think then he lost out in the pits to Jenson and had an oil problem. Pretty sure after the pitstops Lewis and Jens were right next to each other the rest of the race. Vettel also cruised up to the back of Massa at the end.
Jenson and Lewis were never really closer than 2 seconds to each other. Not exactly overtaking position. Nor did Vettel get close enough to Massa to attempt anything.
#85
Posted 27 July 2010 - 04:31 AM
seriously, it's kind of like saying "Congratulations Felipe, you're not brain damaged! Now Fernando gets to fuck your wife!"I think with all this butthurt you guys are missing the real story of this weekend. After only a year Felipe has finally recovered from his crash! No more excuses, oh wait now its going to be team orders and being demotivated.
#87
Posted 27 July 2010 - 06:31 AM
I think with all this butthurt you guys are missing the real story of this weekend. After only a year Felipe has finally recovered from his crash! No more excuses, oh wait now its going to be team orders and being demotivated.
wrrd, if something like that happened to me i'd lose all motivation and just want the season to end
#88
Posted 27 July 2010 - 09:46 AM
wrrd, if something like that happened to me i'd lose all motivation and just want the season to end
I would have parked it on the side of the track.
#89
Posted 27 July 2010 - 10:03 AM
But if it must be done, then the sport has to remove any form of incentives for the teams to win anything other than the constructors championship. I'm not saying that it is possible to remove the incentives for a team to win the drivers championship, but it might be the only way to prevent team orders.
#91
Posted 27 July 2010 - 06:27 PM
I don't honestly believe that it is possible to prevent team orders under any circumstances.
But if it must be done, then the sport has to remove any form of incentives for the teams to win anything other than the constructors championship. I'm not saying that it is possible to remove the incentives for a team to win the drivers championship, but it might be the only way to prevent team orders.
No way to avoid team orders. This was just the most classless example of them I've every seen.
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